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What did do today on your loading bench !


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59 minutes ago, Sisco said:

Sorry to hear about HSM, my batch is pretty good, but there are some negative reports on HSM on the Internet. 

I'd shot HSM before and not had any issues, but this particular crap was literally coming apart in the gun, leaving blown primers in my magazines, fire control group, and locking lug area.

No is bueno compadre.

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21 minutes ago, Matt.Cross said:

I'd shot HSM before and not had any issues, but this particular crap was literally coming apart in the gun, leaving blown primers in my magazines, fire control group, and locking lug area.

No is bueno compadre.

Matt and Tom; I would contact HSM and raise some hell. I am guessing they will do something to make it up to you guys. That is dangerous schit to have happen .

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13 minutes ago, Gschnarr said:

Well one of my first posts. Loaded 300 9mm with x-treme 124 rn with concave base, 90 45ACP with x-treme 230 rn and 150 223 plinking rounds with 55gr hornady fmjs. Had prepped the brass the day before. I like to take it in steps. 

Nice job!

Welcome to the forum.  Feel free to tell about yourself in the introduction section. 

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moving is simple if you own a small rig.. no boxes just shove in what you need and move the fook out.. oh you are married.. carry all those boxes in the house and be Johnny on the spot about it..  jk brother hope your new pad is set up the way you two like it!!! 

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Mounted a Dillon swager on a new steel plate.  Drilled and tapped 1/4-20 machine screws to hold it steady and still be able to swap it with a brass trimmer.  Like everyone says, "you can never have enough bench".  I thought I had enough but I got fooled.  I have the presses mounted with drilled and tapped bolts on 1/2 inch steel plates so I can move them around as needed and they are solid mounted, no movement.

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On 7/21/2014 at 10:30 PM, 98Z5V said:

Roman, it's gonna be hard to find AK ammo that you can reload - just depriming Berdan-primed stuff is a PITA, brother.

 

If you want to load your own stuff for your next rifle, then you're a hell of alot better off going 300BLK, by FAR...

 

The steps I take on this stuff is as follows.  It's also subject to change if I can find any other steps that will make other steps easier...

 

Steps for my 300BLK manufacture:

 

1.  AR-15s get the $hit shot out of them at the range.  All brass policed up.

2.  All AR-15 brass (.223 Rem and 5.56 NATO) goes into the tumbler once it gets home.

3.  Sort out Lake City 5.56 NATO brass - that's the only stuff I'll turn into Blackout ammo anymore. 

4.  Run the Lake City 5.56 brass through the mini chop saw.  I was cutting it right at the neck, but that leaves ALOT of trimming.  I've been cutting it a little further back now, so I have less final-trimming to do.  I'll get pics next time I chop a batch up.

5.  Chamfer those now-straight-walled cases heavily, with VLD chamfer bits - this is important later, and for the next step. 

6.  Run them through the tumbler for about 15 minutes, to clear out all the brass shavings from chopping them - don't let that stuff tear up your 300BLK dies.

7.  Pull from tumbler, shake 'em out, and lube 'em up on the pad (or whatever you use).  You can hit straight-walled 5.56 cases with some pretty heavy lube, and it won't hurt the brass.  Typically, if you use too much lube, you're gonna dent in the shoulders of brass that you're just resizing.  That's one sign of "too much lube."  You can run this stuff heavy and it won't hurt new-made BLK cases - you're forming a brand new shoulder, where there wasn't one before.  I've yet to have a problem on a heavy-lubed pad, and any shoulder issues when making new BLK brass.

8.  Run 'em through the sizer/deprimer.

9.  Leave the lube on there - don't sweat it.  There's still alot of steps to go here...

10.  Change dies in the press - Run them through the Swager now - get rid of those crazy Lake City primer crimps.  Be aggressive with them in this step, because the new Lake CIty primer crimping is a 4-Corner affair.  Lake CIty wants to make sure you never blow out a primer in their brass, and they're damn good at the primer crimping process.

11.  These things are going in for final-trimming now.  Put them in your trimmer - lube still on them - and cut them back to 1.363" OAL.  I've been cutting them shorter now so I have less to trim.  If you chop them right at the shoulder, they'll be somewhere between 1.900" and 2.000" long when you start trimming - THAT'S ALOT TO HAND-TRIM!!!  I chop under the shoulder now - still experimenting - and my initial length, to start trimming, has beenin the 1.800"-something range.  That's not bad.

12.  You may need to hit them with the VLD chamfer tool (inner and outer) while you're trimming them down.  Measure often - if you have alot to go, chamfer those fuckers.  It makes it easier to trim them down.

13.  Once at final trim-to size, chamfer those bastards again, inner and outer, with the VLD chamfer tool.  This must be done in order to make it easier to get a good, light crimp on them later. 

14.  Once they're all trimmed to 1.363", they go into a small tupperware of hot soapy water.  Run them all around in there, make sure you wash them good.  They've got lube on them, brass shavings, gunk.  The hot soapy water makes that stuff go away fast. 

15.  Toss in a squirt of Real Lemon, right into the soapy water, for the last 10 minutes.  Makes 'em pretty.

16.  Out of the water, into a small collander - hot water bath, right under the faucet, to clear all that soap and lemon juice out.

17.  Onto the paper towels, out into the AZ sun, to dry out.  Takes less than 10 minutes here, in the middle of the day, in the summer...

18.  Into the tumbler again.  Polish 'em up.

19.  Clear them out from the tumbler, take them back inside ('cause it's summer in AZ...).

20.  Prime those bastards up.  I'm running CCI 400 small rifle primers in mine.

21.  Measure/drop powder.  I'm running 150 grain Hornady FMJ BT projectiles, so I'm running 16.1 grains of H110 powder under them.  It's very, very damn close to a compressed load in this small case.

22.  Seat your bullets. 

23. Toss on a light taper-crimp, if your dies don't already do this for you.  I've been using the RCBS AR-Series 300BLK Small Base Die Set.  The seater die has a crimp function built right into it - all in the same motion.  Once you hit that final depth on the seating, it crimps it, too.  No separate action the their AR-Series Dies. All in one.  Saved one step that way...  <lmao>

 

There you go.  That's the process I take to turn Lake City 5.56 NATO brass into 300BLK ammo.  Might seem excessive, but those steps are there for a reason.

 

I sure as hell hope I didn't leave a step out - I don't think I did...  <laughs>

Hey @Hotwrench, I see you lurking the 300BLK section, but you need to check this post out, above ^^^  :thumbup:

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1 hour ago, 98Z5V said:

Hey @Hotwrench, I see you lurking the 300BLK section, but you need to check this post out, above ^^^  :thumbup:

Checked it, downloaded it, printed it for future reference.  This forum is like a f@3%ing onion, layers and layers. I don't think I had a clue how much was here.  Still don't, still exploring.  I see that you haven't answered my question yet, must be true, people in hot climates move slow.

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16 hours ago, Hotwrench said:

Checked it, downloaded it, printed it for future reference.  This forum is like a f@3%ing onion, layers and layers. I don't think I had a clue how much was here.  Still don't, still exploring.  I see that you haven't answered my question yet, must be true, people in hot climates move slow.

Hot Wrench I followed 98Z’s 300 Blk process religiously and my reloads came out beautifully. That is the 300 Blk gospel as far as I am concerned.:thumbup:

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Well I loaded 300 rounds of 6.5 Creedmoor this week. I was home sick with the flu so yesterday I felt good enough to stand next to the load bench and just knocked it out. I have an LRB M25 a couple of bolt guns and a couple of AR308s in 6.5 Creedmoor. Luckily all the gas guns like one load. Too bad my bolt guns like a different one from each other and the gas guns. 

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Punched out a big tub of 300 Win Mag tonight.  All resized and deprimed, and back in the tumbler now. There were 128 of them - might not sound like alot, but those things take up alot of space...   :laffs:  Was surprised to find another 53 polished cases of 25-45 already in the tumbler, so I'll resize and deprime those tomorrow...

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Made my first mock-up .260 Rem round tonight, just to get the feel for the dies, and resizing .308 brass...  IT'S ON!!!  :banana:

Standard .308 Win range load on the left, .260 Rem in the middle, little brother 6.5 G on the right...

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