Thanks! I heard that about mixing manufacturers but the lower is not from DPMS. It's a third party 80% lower patterned after the LR-308. I bought a DPMS lower parts kit & the magazine release button wouldn't work. Thankfully the third party had discovered this & supplied a button that works. My point being, there's no guarantee that DPMS parts will fit & their carbine buffer is only 3.2oz. For what I understand, unless you run a rifle gas system, that's too light for anything shorter. Uppers I'm looking at have mid-length gas systems so I wanted a heavier buffer. I also want an anti tilt system & the POF buffer tube will allow you to use regular buffers. Their 7 position anti tilt buffer tube, which has 7 3/4" depth vs 7", will allow me to use regular length carbine buffers vs the shorty .308 carbine buffers which there are less variety from what I've seen. The LBE Unlimited is 5.6oz with 3 Tungsten weights & standard carbine length. I'm pretty sure that if i go the route I plan, I will need a rifle length buffer spring. I greatly appreciate your input but I think I will go with what I plan & I will report what happens so someone else can have that info. I hear your warning & if I run in to trouble its my fault. JQ