TX380

I replaced my scope mount with a lower one to give me a better cheek weld (1.4" to scope centerline vs 1.66"). You wouldn't think 1/4" change in scope height would make much difference, but it fits me a lot better now. I went to the range this afternoon and I'm getting all shots touching or even in the same hole from 50 yards. I only had 20 rounds, but next time I'll move back to 100 yards and see what kind of groups I can get. I'm cautiously optimistic!

Range Report #2: Went to the range today with 20 rounds of factory ammo and 20 hand loads. Both were grouping 1-1.5 inches from 50 yards. Then I removed the scope and mount and installed the one off my 223. The groups immediately improved with both ammo. I pulled a couple of shots and it's not an outstanding group, but much better than what I was getting. I'll either try installing the scope in a different mount (it's a little high for me to get a good cheek weld), or just return the scope. The scope is a SWFA 3-15x40 with their SSULT mount. I've heard their warranty is very good. I might also loose all the bolts and retighten them, but I don't think they are loose. I also think my groups would improve with a better trigger, but I think the scope was causing some of my problems.

Looks like you might be right. Google maps shows the two companies are literally next door. I did some more digging and found a thread on ar15.com where they are discussing the same thing right now. Here is the gist of it: Alex Pro Firearms (APF) was originally a division of Alexandria Pro-Fab Co., Inc. One is per county tax records owned by a TK Wilkins Properties LLC and the other is owned by Wilkins Properties LLC. The Wilkin brothers started the Alexandria Pro Fab Shop before the APF Armory was created. Alex Pro Firearms (APF Armory) rejected some parts they had made for them. Sent them back to alex pro fab. They were supposed to destroy them per contract but instead one of the mangers decided to sell them to AIM surplus. So all warranty claims have to go through alex pro fab, but if you need parts like rail sections etc APF Armory will gladly sell you parts. Now the APF Armory website has a statement saying "We are not affiliated with Alexandria Pro-Fab in any way!" Link to the thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/691518_Alexandria_PRO_FAB__APF__308_AR_mini_review.html Alexandria Pro Fab is also selling lowers and complete rifles. It would be interesting to know why the parts were rejected, ie functional or cosmetic issues?

I found a note on the APF website stating that they are not affiliated with Alexandria Pro Fab (the company that made my upper). Seems strange that they have the same initials, are located in the same town, and make identical uppers. Obviously since they have the statement on their website, I'm not the first person to get them confused. If you do a google search for Alexandria Pro Fab, the AFP website is even the second search result. Guess that explains why the upper was 1/2 price... In other news, I'm working on some hand loads to try in the rifle on Sunday. I'm also going to try a different scope that I have on a quick connect and have a friend shoot it to see if he can get better groups. Some friends told me that my scope or barrel might be loose.

Bubba, is your AFP carbine more accurate with any particular bullet weight? I'm thinking of trying the Sierra 165 gr gameking, they seem to be accurate in a lot of rifles.

Range Report! I put 60 rounds through the 308 today from a distance of about 50 yards. I had a few FTE that I think were caused by my brass catcher. Once I removed the brass catcher there were no problems at all with feed or ejection. The brass landed nearby on the ground and wasn't hard to find. Recoil wasn't bad, but 60 rounds was enough for one day. I'll probably try a heavier buffer to reduce the recoil for longer shooting sessions. I did have some accuracy problems that hopefully were caused by the ammo. I was shooting Winchester 150 grain Super X Power Point. From 50 yards, I would have several rounds touching and then get a flyer (usually to the left). I'm just an average shot, but I can usually get all my 223 holes touching from 50 yards. The groups seemed to open up more near the end, but that could have been due to shooter fatigue. I have head that some guns work better with heavier projectiles. I will be reloading for this rifle once I get enough brass together. Right now with this ammo it's looking like a 2 MOA gun. Hopefully it's just a matter of finding a load that the rifle likes. Here are some of my targets from 50 yards.

Thanks for the explanation about the forward assist; I had assumed that it would work like an AR15.

Got my AFP upper today. First impressions: Finish looks good, no scratches or blemishes that I could see I like the FF handguard, but the rails use a proprietary attachment method, so you have to get them from AFP. Not a big deal. The upper didn't come with any. Some reviews mentioned that their uppers came with fired cases; mine did not, but the BCG and firing pin were dirty as if it had been fired. Although the upper has a forward assist, there are no serrations on the BCG for the FA to engage. The staking on the gas key bolts looks a little light. I may have a friend stake them again. The fit with my DPMS lower is a little loose, I might need to accuwedge it. I've heard that a loose fit does not affect accuracy. No show stoppers, especially considering the price. Accuracy and functional testing Sunday!

I like the camo paint job! I caught the alexandria upper on sale at AIM surplus and ordered one Thursday. Less than $500 for everything including BCG. Found some good reviews on a few other sites. http://aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XPF30818U8459900&name=Alexandria+PRO-FAB+.308%2f7.62X51+Upper+Receiver+Group&groupid=2531 I'll post an update once I get it and try it out. Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry!

I've been looking in to the APF uppers, and have found nothing but good reviews. I am seriously considering one of them. I read that Aero Precision was having problems with their ejectors; is that old news, has it been resolved? I did see where they are using a different method to attach the handguards to the receiver that is supposed to isolate them from the barrel better and allows them to be removed easily.

I have a DPMS lower, but I didn't like any of the factory 308 uppers (except the 3G1, which is discontinued). I'd like to have a modular free float handguard so I can add rails just where I want them. I've also read that most 308s are overgassed, so I was looking into a mid or rifle length gas system as well to reduce the gas pressure.

Thanks, that's just the kind of thing I'm looking for. What kind of mags does your APF take?

I'm looking for a company that makes a complete DPMS style upper assembly in 308 WIN for my LR308 lower. It will be used for target shooting and hog hunting at ranges of no more than 400 yards. I'd like to have a forward assist, dust cover, 16-18" barrel, and some kind of modular free float handguards. I'm not interested in building it myself. I've found a few companies selling stuff online, but can't find any reviews. Does anyone have experience with Verifoce Tactical, AR15part.com, or arhuntingrifles.com? Or can you recommend anyone else? Thanks.