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W.E.G.

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  1. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    I'm not sure exactly what you are asking to see. Are you asking to see the Palmetto extractor equipped with the Fulton spring-assembly in order to observe where the rear of the Palmetto extractor sits when so-equipped?
  2. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Looks like both of my reviews on the Palmetto site are still squashed. Palmetto sent me a reply via email.
  3. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Wow. My review was up initially. Looks like Palmetto yanked both of my reviews in fact. I gave the upper a 3-star review - with explanation as to why stars taken away due to specific flaws. I gave the lower a 5-star review with caveat that buttstock and trigger are basic, and should be replaced with better examples of each. Here's what I posted for the upper:
  4. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    My "review" is live on the Palmetto website https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen2-pa10-20-rifle-length-308-win-1-10-stainless-steel-15-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-and-ch-5165447551.html
  5. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Just to be sure we're on the same page regarding what I'm reporting, my rifle is a 20" barrel. My gas port will accept a 3/32" (0.09375") drill bit with a very snug fit.
  6. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    There may have been some that actually WERE over-gassed in prior iterations of this model. All you have to do is look at the drunk-bubba-with-a-coarse-stone-dremel feed-ramp "fitting" that was done to the barrel extension on mine to conclude that Palmetto's efforts with these rifles is a "work in progress." I got in there and smoothed-out some of the "rhythm section" that Bubba carved into the ramps before actually firing the rifle. But in this pic, before I worked on it, you can see that Bubba left the ramps rough enough that they actually pulled fibers off a Q-tip (see right-side ramp) when I was examining the ramps.
  7. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    I fired three types of ammo in the Palmetto PA-10 today, with the Fulton Armory extractor assembly installed in the Palmetto bolt. Also installed the Fulton Armory 15.5” gas tube in the original Palmetto non-adjustable has block. Rifle ran just fine. I don’t know whether the shorter Palmetto gas tube was actually ever the reason the rifle wouldn’t eject spent cases reliably. I’m confident it never would have cycled reliably if I hadn’t gotten rid of that weak Palmetto two-spring extractor spring assembly. It is entirely possible that the PA-10 uppers will run OK so long as you get rid of the Palmetto extractor springs, and replace them with a quality extractor spring, and polymer extractor-support insert, and correct-size O-ring.
  8. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    I decided to take a look at the Palmetto website to see whether they might be selling PA-10 extractors separately. Here's what I found (and note "NOT IN STOCK" as are many PA-10 individual parts): https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa-10-extractor-rebuil-kit.html Only a single spring and double O-rings. Call me unimpressed.
  9. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    From the look of it, the Palmetto extractor spring looks highly questionable. The proof is always in performance. Testing the Palmetto bolt with Fulton spring AND extractor Wednesday. Not planning on testing narrow-claw Palmetto extractor further if Fulton extractor and spring together run 100%.
  10. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Regarding the EJECTOR, I want to note that when the Palmetto bolt in its factory-configuration did actually eject brass, the brass landed in the same place that the Fulton bolt deposited it. The Palmetto EJECTOR spring seems very strong, and seems comparable in strength to the Fulton bolt. I perceive no binding/roughness in the movement of the Palmetto ejector. I cannot depress it with my fingernail using my bare hand. I can only depress it using a tool, or using a cartridge casing levered under the lip of of the extractor.
  11. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Probably range-trip Wednesday. Expecting another Fulton Armory 15.5" gas tube to arrive tomorrow. Plan is install the 15.5" tube in the original non-adjustable Palmetto gas block, and see how things function with the modified Palmetto bolt (Fulton extractor assembly added), versus the full Fulton bolt assembly. I suspect this failure-to-extract issue is going to turn out to be all about the inadequate springs in the original Palmetto extractor. I plan to keep the 15.5" gas tube installed in the gun no matter what. Again, why settle for an unnecessarily-short gas tube when a longer tube is available. The short tube should work "most of the time," right?
  12. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Here's a side-by-side comparison
  13. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    Here is what I removed from the Palmetto bolt.
  14. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    When I was digging around in the AR-10 parts box today, I found this. So, THIS is now installed in the Palmetto bolt.
  15. W.E.G.

    Palmetto PA-10 failure to eject

    I think that pretty much seals the deal as far as the verdict on the Palmetto extractor spring being inadequate. The jury is still out on the issue of whether the claw of the extactor itself being 0.020" narrower than the Fulton claw as to inadequacy. I may get around to experimenting with the Fulton spring and polymer insert with the narrow Palmetto claw. But, I'd prefer to have the wider claw, and let that just be that. Why have less claw when more is available? If I'm attacked by one of the really big squirrels, I don't want some nagging concern about having saved a few bucks on an extractor. It works "most of the time," right?
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