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I am learning that . As others have wrote , As long as it is getting the **** out of the rifle , Go with it . This site is pretty cool and So are the people that hang here . Fred H.
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So have both the Red spring that was recommended and the orange spring . Put the red spring in along the the new H3 buffer and the tanker style muzzle brake I added . Was able to run up the mountain behind My house for a few minutes this morning to run a few rounds through . Still seems to be ejecting at a 2 o;clock position , but they appeared to be clearing without issue's , So as most have stated " Time to quit F'ing with it " .🙂 Was initially sighted in for 400 yards but dialed it back on a rough guess estimate for 100 yards . Based upon my target at 50 yards , I went to far , thus brought it back up , but need to go a little farther . Recoil was substantially less with heavier buffer , spring and brake . Picked up the brass , appears clean although a couple have scratch's . In the future , if I can get to the range , want to do a super slow mo video of ejection to see how it looks ????????? Was in prone and standing on the rounds just below DC . . The couple of fliers was due to battling the sun over my left shoulder when I first fired . Really want to Thank everyone for the Help . You are all Awesome .👍 Fred H.
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As it sits now . Red spring should be here this next week . Although I have orange spring , want to put red in first and go from there . Seeing How 98Z5V has been a huge help , I will p.m. him for a address and He will get some free parts if interested . No charge for parts or shipping . Not many shops around here that work or even have a clue , on weapons . They are just sellers . Thus , the Advice and Guidance that He has been providing , has been a True Blessing . 👍 Hopefully , I will be able to push a few rounds through next weekend to see how everything functions . 🙂 Fred H.
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Orange spring has arrived , but still waiting on red spring . Did finally install a new Tanker style muzzle brake I purchased off of GB months ago , from a dealer North of Me . Don't want to shoot it now till I get the red spring first . Then can go to orange if needed . So did go back and wipe down the casing's I shot previously . The first 11 had No marks . the rest of the Brass and then the Steel case ammo I shot afterwards , all had that " Tick " mark / scratch / dent , about halfway down the case . Also seen some scratches around the neck portion , but no real denting , like middle of case . I know when it started per say , in that the first 11 no marks , then 19 brass with marks and 20 steel case with marks . Steel case were last 20 through rifle . Did not have any issue's during the 50 rounds , Only used 1 mag. A 20 round , that was loaded 18 , 12 , 10 , 10 . So " Thinking " mag was not the issue . Orange spring ordered last weekend from Texas and arrived today . Red spring coming from Florida . As a control , am going to use same mag. , with same loading pattern , for first the Red spring . If that provides a better looking case , then will stick with it . Fred H.
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It took a few minutes for that to sink into this old brain , then it dawned up Me and better half thought I had lost it as I was laughing 🤣 Fred H.
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Ordered Both a Red and a Orange . Not Sure Why . Highly Doubtful I use the Orange . Better to start with red and go from there . Again , Super Thanks for the Help . Fred H.
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I figured something was really whacked since I could not find that spring measurement on any site ??? Wonder it worked , but then I wonder How long it Would of ?????? Okay , Seen that Sprinco red on a site , but was leary since many places don't show measurements , ( Would really help if they did ) .. Now to go through interent history and find the site again 😁😂 Thank You For Your Assistance . It is really Nice to Meet People like Everyone Here . Fred H.
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As You can see in previous post , Buffer is pretty close to old , although a tick longer . What really concerns Me now though is the spring . Especially in reading another thread , Were a Chart was shared from HeavyBuffers .My springs is not even close to those measurements listed ?????? So no I am like WTF ?? Fred H.
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Hmm , Don't have this EDIT thing figured out yet . As one can see , Old buffer a tick shorter than New . Weapon was Used when purchased . Although in Excellent condition , don't know how many rounds through it before , Were as I have put 50 through it myself . So is buffer length difference Wear ?? I imagine that the plastic end kind of takes a beating , Especially if buffer is to light . Which brings Me to My next question . Been reading a lot about the Spring . Heavier gauge , More Coils , etc.... , Old Man brain is on overload . Thus if buffer to light , Could that spring also be questionable ??? Actually doubt I will be able to get any rounds off , even if I wanted to for a month or so . Working on preventative maintenance on my money maker today , tomorrow and Saturday , besides the rest of the Honey do list . Thus I have time to learn much more from the Experts Here , Which I Greatly Appreciate Everyone Here for Sharing their Knowledge . Sincerely , Fred H.
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First picture , Old Buffer . Second is New Buffer / Holy Cr** , Can Easily feel the weight difference . Third ( 3rd ) picture is tape measure down the buffer tube to end . Fourth is entire length of buffer spring and last is the end of spring to better show length . Although measurements are easy , Sure wish I had a scale . My powder measure scale dang sure does not go to 3 ounces , let alone 5 ounces . Don't think I wish to hold something to my shoulder that uses that much powder 🤣 Hopefully I can get a few rounds through it later today to see if it still works . Fred H.
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Miss-typed buffer length I think ?? Asked better half tonight what sticky note said and said she thinks it read 3. something , ( Not bad hand writing , she did'nt have her glasses on and was headed for bed ) . I do remember that it was same as one I ordered , just new one was a H3 . Fred H.
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Don't have email while on the road working , that is on my home computer , But measurements via a digital caliper was same for new one I purchased as the one I pulled out . Was listed in AR10 parts list from company I ordered from , not AR15 list . Pretty sure it was 2.5" ??? , Was juggling measuring , looking at website and playing with 9 y.o. Grandson . Wrote it down on a sticky stuck to my screen at home . My concern is not really the angle of ejection , but seems like I was reading here that although to light a buffer and spring may work , it can cause premature wear of parts , Thus if this brings it more into what " Should be " right without any issues , Then I have bookmarked a website that many here have recommended , Heavy buffers ?? . Then I would utilize them for both a buffer and correct spring . What I did find when pulling the buffer was that is was a Palmento State armory ( spelling ?? ) . Although lower is stamped New Frontier Armory multi caliber , 7.62 / .308 , I now question who really made it ??? Being in trucking , I go to many factories that produce products , but are packaged according to WHO it is going to . Same product , but in a store brand carton or National brand carton . Seems like I had seen a article that Aero makes a lot of lowers , but are stamped for whoever is purchasing a given amount / run ??? I try to glean as much info as I can fit into this old feeble brain by reading through all the threads , As it is very obvious that Most , if not All here have Far more knowledge in the proper function of these rifles as well as correct parts and best , most reliable parts / sellers . Thus I Greatly Appreciate every one's input . Fred H.
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Rather than repost weapon information , Here is the link to when I did a introduction . Orygun or Oregon ? - Introductions - 308AR.com Community Did pull the buffer and it is a H weight carbine class , ( short ) . Brass does not appear to be damaged in any way . Although I have kept the brass , I do not have a reloading die ( spelling?? ) for .308 / 7.62 . Have one for my .270 , plus press , etc... . So guess I may look into getting die , but with primer shortage , etc. .... , that may be ??? After seeing the buffer decided WTH and ordered a H3 carbine buffer . If it functions , Great . If not , I will sell it to my brother in Washington for double what I paid for it . 😂 Fred H.
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Way back , early 1980 , Basic training , M-16 , We Dry fired our M-16's for hours on end utilizing a washer about the size of a nickel ?? It was placed right behind front site , on top of barrel and with weapon already ready , the object was to squeeze the trigger without the washer falling off . It was an attempt to teach everyone to Squeeze rather than Jerk . I used this weapon the entire 12 weeks of training including live fire without issue's . Thus My question , Is dry fire Harmful ?? Back then the military did not seem to thing so , But that still does not mean it was a good idea . Just wondering . Thanks , Sincerely , Fred H.
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Thank you every one for the replies . It kind of verifies a old saying " If it ain't broke , Don't fix it " . 😁 Fred H.
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One of my older brothers is a FFL dealer and amateur builder . We were talking about the angles that brass is ejected from rifles . My Remington semi .270 elk rifle , ejects brass out at about the 4 o'clock position . Back in My military days in early '80's , My M-16 ejected brass roughly between the 4 and 5 o'clock position . My , New to Me , New Frontier Armory C-10 , with 20" barrel , ejects brass about the same distance as the .270 and the M-16 I use to use , BUT it ejects forward , roughly I would say the 2 o'clock position . Brass ends up about 4 feet forward of the bench . Shooting either 145 grain or 150 grain bullet weights , not hot loads / maximum powder , but not weak on powder either . He mentioned that buffer weight can effect the angle . No idea what the current buffer weigh's , Can pull the spring and measure later today . Thus based upon this I know to be Limited info. , Should I look for a heavier buffer or ??? Does not damage the brass with the forward ejection , thus not sure I NEED to change anything since it Seems to function quite nicely as it is . Thought's , Idea's and Suggestions are Greatly Appreciated . Thank You , Sincerely Fred H.
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No , No multi shots . Average shot distance is between 50 and 75 yards . Most of the area We hunt in is rather " Thick " .. Thus 1 shot is virtually all You get . Still though , He has seen My scar and does not want something similar on His left cheek 🤣 At the time it was a decent deal , $690 . With shipping and Transfer fee , Had $750 into it . Now with current prices , It was a Steal . It was mentioned about Barnes Bullets . My Elk rifle is a Remington .270 semi . My bullet of choice is the Barnes Original 150 grain . My 2 older brothers with the last elk I got a couple of years ago . Thank You All for Welcoming Me . Hope to learn more from all of You .
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As a side note about brass ejection , this is pretty nice since it ejects forward about 6 feet and to the right about 8 to 10 feet . Better than My Remington Elk rifle , which even My brother will not stand on My right when hunting together 🤣
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First post , Old guy although not retired yet , likely never will . Like to spend to much on the Grandkids to want to retire . Have lurked for awhile , reading , absorbing information . Never Built any type rifle , although did help my Dad build a muzzle loader kit and still have the pistol kit he also had but never started before his passing . Always wanted a " AR " type rifle , actually I wish I had bought a H&K before the first Ban way back . Issue I had though with the Battle Rifles was the cocking lever being on the left side . As a left handed shooter , that would be like a monkey humpin a football . Not Pretty . Back in the early '80's , military duty and the M-16 , showed Me that , 1) I could easily operate these type rifles even left handed and 2) That any type brass deflector was a P.O.S. . Better to have the brass fly by My right ear than to drop into my right sleeve , (still have a pretty 5.56 brass image scar on inside of right elbow ) . Last fall , fell into a deal on auction site , a New Frontier Armory C-10 , .308/.7.62x51 Demo with a 20" barrel . Less than 30 rounds , only a couple of faint scratches inside mag. well . Even the FFL dealer who did the transfer was looking at the paperwork were it said " Used " and looking over the rifle . Have ran about 50 rounds through it now . Started zero at 25 yards , then 100 yards , then out to 200 yards . Ran a ballistic table for the rounds I was using and adjusted for rise / drop , so now it zero's to 400 . Not really made for " MOUT " or what ever it is called now , urban room clearing anyway . Barrel length would be a pain . But for long range , It it pretty decent . Picture is when I first received . Have since added different scope mounts to be able to place a reflex site on top of scope . Won't post much , reason being that I lack knowledge of building . Know " How " they function but why this or that does not work , is beyond my brain power .









