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Honestly though the 2oz difference I won't ever notice and I know if I can just wait and spend the money on a LaRue I'll never have any worries plus option to mount red dot in future. If i can't bring myself to wait and save then I'll go aero with Valhalla hanger. I appreciate everyone's opinions but I believe I'm set on those 2 options only factor is money

I had no idea their mounts are as light weight as the aero mounts but without the hinge design

I just don't want to ever have to drop my shoulders down and lift my cheek off stock, rather cram it down harder to get to a 45 mount off top of the main rail, which was my initial thought process for the future. I think with the ADM mount I'd be too high after the piciteny raising it up then almost all red dots that sit on piciteny also sit up higher themselves because of the base under them.

Will it get out around a 50mm objective lense? I'll for sure look into it because only thing ADM makes is a scope ring with a angled piciteny rail section on it but it then to get the red dot on it raises the height weather is offset or piggy back, maybe not so much on the offset 1 but truly hard to say without seeing and experiencing it

Well as my hunting rifle I'll take durability over weight because I'm not always easy on my rifles in the woods. I won't be removing the scope at all once mounted and zeroed unless it's replaced with a better option in the future so quick detach isn't a factor to me and if i ever decide to make it more versatile and put on a red dot it'll be an angle mount directly off rail as piggyback is a bit too tall for me. Still looking for good weight/durability/budget options while I get the gun tuned properly but I keep coming back to LaRue and ADM mounts

I'll definitely take a look at them because I'll be going up in price regardless of what i get now so waiting a little longer won't kill me. When i looked up on the fourm and found aero had problems with their mount I read a few people mention American defense manufacturing was another good option?

Do you have another lightweight option you'd recommend then? Hard to tell sometimes what reviews are legit and what ones are people that just got mad after a 1 in 1 million situation and no offense but everyone seems to have controversial opinions and few that are honest, bias and actually help to give other good options close to your budget that also meet your requirements.

Was thinking since I decided on the 2.5x15 midas which weighs about 6oz more than the 2x12 I'll save about that much if I get the aero ultralight mount to pare it with

I fully agree with you. Name brands are a must but athlon has made a good name for themselves I feel like by reviews. I never shoot above 8x I don't believe but I do like having a little more power to identify rack points when looking across a field. What 1 piece mounts do you recommend?

I don't use bdc on any scopes just because my dad is a hand load wizard and constantly trying new things to get us better groups for our barrels and bullet/task application so try to stay away from those busy recitals and stick to moa or mil dot or hash mark recitals get my zero set and learn how the load shoots from there and write down dope if i like the grouping then memorize it before hunting season. The argos i believe is same glass as the helos just SFP and caped turrets based on info athlon gives but i could be very wrong there. If the HD glass makes a difference and I know the bigger objective lense will help in low light then that's the athlon scope I'd go with is midas hmr HD 2.5x15 but if you have other scopes in same magnification range that are sfp and illuminated for about $500-$700 I'm open minded and haven't clicked the check out box just yet but based on my budget I believe this is my best option

Thank you very much for the fantastic information on your experience. I have used my dad's bench gun 6×24 scope on my 30-06 for hunting 1 year in a bind and found it bulky and too much magnification for some areas at 6x and never came close to 24x. How is your 2×12 in low light, dusk conditions? Do you notice a difference in the "HD" glass in their higher tier models? That'll be my deciding factors on what I get between the argos 2x12 and midas 2.5x15

I considered the primary arms 2x10 I think it was... but I would like more than 10x for better target identifying but 2x or as close as I can for my heavy forest areas. That is only reason I looked into athlon and a lot of people had good reviews

I don't have a budget to put a $1000 optic on nor do I ever find myself in a hunting situation in Michigan to need 1 honestly. Athlon just had these 2 under $600 were in second focal plane which I prefer when hunting and illuminated retical. If you have better options in the $700 under range that are illuminated and SFP I'd definitely look into them

Are they both the HD fully coated lenses? Questioning weather I'd notice a difference in the glass quality all that much between their HD and regular glass

I have a ar10 chambered in 308 I built mainly for hunting. I have been looking at getting an athlon scope to mount on it because of their raved reviews and my budget. I can't decide to get the argos 2×12 due to its lightweight, short length and cheaper price OR to spend the extra $200 get the midas 2.5×15 for the slightly better light transmission from bigger objective lense, higher magnification for identifying targets and slightly better glass quality with it featuring their "HD" glass. Some tips or experience with either would help. Thanks in advance

Is LFA a high or low profile dpms pattern?