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For me it is hard to explain what the issue was other than I had to press my cheek into the stock to get the proper weld. I think the VLTOR stock with its angled side allows my cheek a little more room and aids in the alignment. So it does lower my cheek down just a little. It is a hard to measure the difference of cheek height, but again I have not shot the weapon. I will report back when I do.

Honestly I don't know what I am saying. I tried this off hand in the bedroom and had good results. I have yet to take it to the range to put rounds through it. My initial response was a marked improvement in cheek weld over the original stock. My guess is that the butt plate is a little longer (I will measure later today) than the original stock allowing me to place the gun higher on my shoulder thus resulting in a more comfortable position. This with the angled side allow for a quicker repeatable cheek weld. I am not sure if I can be more descriptive until I shoot the gun. So I guess yes would be my answer. 8) I measured the stocks and there is no real noticeable difference in size. The VLTOR is 1/8" longer from front to back and they are the same in the length of the butt pad at 5". The VLTOR has more of an angle at the bottom than the DPMS stock.

I received the VLTOR IMOD stock yesterday and installed it today. I am really impressed. I did not expect the improvement I received. <thumbsup> The design of the VLTOR lends itself to a better cheek weld. I verified this offhand standing and was able to fall into a correct cheek weld. (insane) I am attributing this to the angled pieces on the side of the stock. Honestly if I had know I would have done this along time ago. Here are some pictures. I am not sure if you can tell the difference between the stock in the photos or not. [img width=810 height=456]http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/outdare/Vltorstock.jpg

Thanks for the suggestions. It didn't even occur to me that I could shim the mounts for a little extra height. I also have a 3/4" riser and some Leopold low rings around here as well. That might be an option. I just don't like to use the risers if I can get away with it. So far I have ordered a new stock. (I dislike the stock one and feel it is do with an upgrade regardless.) I bought a Vltor IMOD basic based on the reviews it received. I chose this one because I already have a Magpul MOE on another rifle and can swap it over if I want o try it out. I also ordered a heavy buffer/spring from Slash's heavy buffers. I add this because of the great customer service I received. It really has nothing to do with cheek weld. Clint responded to my emails quickly. So I give him a big thumbs up for customer service.

I am a big guy at 6'3 with a large head. (7 5/8" hat size) I am finding the scope to low. I have to jam my check into the stock to get the correct alignment. I looked at the Larue mounts and they are nice, but they are pricey. The thing is that I have other rifles with not one issues like this and using normal rings. Such as a Rem 700 25-06 with standard low rings and the cheek weld is perfect. Thanks for the replies.

Thanks for the replies. I'll check out Larue's webpage and see what they offer. I have the original stock on the gun now. I am not sure if a riser is what I am looking for. If I installed a MOE/PRS style of stock would I have to replace the carbine buffer tube or buffer? Thanks, Bill

Hello All, I have a 308 AP4 set up with Burris TAC x-high rings with a Bushnell scope. I am having issues with eye to scope alignment. With the setup I have I am dancing my head around to find the sweet spot on the scope. I was hoping I could get some suggestions on how I can fix this. At this point with my large melon I am having to push my head down into the stock to get the correct alignment.

I was trolling Midway's sales page and came across this 300 ammo and thought I would pass it along. Not sure if it's a great deal or not. PNW Arms Ammunition 300 AAC Blackout 147 Grain Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Box of 20 13.99 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/528716/pnw-arms-ammunition-300-aac-blackout-147-grain-full-metal-jacket-boat-tail-box-of-20?cm_vc=J011

I have a question about the Krylon paint. Will it cook off of the barrel? Are you using high temp paint? Just curious for what I have read is painting barrels can be problematic

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Thanks it was worth the read and chuckle.

I decided to purchase a DPMS AP4 LR308 based on the power and availability of the 308 cartridge in a semi auto rifle. Plus it is just fun to shoot.

I bought some German surplus ammo back on 08. The only problem with the ammo is that the paper packaging led to discoloration of the brass. I ended up use a piece of scotch bright to get some of the green discoloration off. Other than that the ammo shoots clean and I have no failures.