Thanks unforgiven. I'm not ready to leave CO yet but my outlaws have some health issues and step daughter is there. I also plan on attending Montgomery Community College out in Troy in 2014 or 2015, depending when my number gets called. We will live on White Lake until then around the wife's fam. If I can get into the local CC machining program I want to push off MCC until 2015 and get a formal machining education. Figure if I am going to make a livelyhood out of guns, I should get some "real" training.