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I have one like your description that I just installed on another AR; that adj. gas block is from Joe Bob Outfitters (good value and small enough to fit under most all handguards if anyone is looking for one). For those interested, the gas block on my PA65 upper has the forward set screw (on front of gas block) offset left from the center, which makes it impossible for it to be the screw that restricts/blocks the gas hole and is one way to recognize this version externally. Nice his new barrel is working so well. I wouldn't mind having a lighter barrel as the gun is heavy, but I like it nonetheless and have other lighter rifles.

I believe PSA has changed their PA65 adjustable gas blocks a couple times due to the preceding variety not being so great. It is possible the preceding model had the gas adjustment screw at the front of the gas block with a set screw on the side. However, on mine, which I bought last summer, the gas adjustment is on the right side of the gun with the set screw being on the front of the gas block. I only mention this because it is fairly recessed (the set screw), and I wondered if you mixed them up potentially. I'm pretty sure a number of people have got it mixed up and thought the gas block was faulty. If you do a search on how to adjust it, you will likely find conflicting advice, even from PSA, on how to do it, and I think this is because they switched their sourcing for the gas blocks. Mine was overgassed in its initial setting, which is common for all gas ports these days due to the manufacturer not wanting to hear reports of their guns not cycling from customers and reviewers. I think/know it's possible to adjust it and have it cycle and hold back after the last round without having to resort to changing buffer weight or springs or ammo or BCG, although one might change those for other reasons I suppose. They should include instructions for the gas blocks because they differ so much from manufacturer to manufacturer.

From my peanut gallery perch, "use the search function" is an instruction that tends to doom a forum as it is off putting and counter productive to discussion, which is the aim of a forum. Makes one want to leave the forum to its own antisocial nature. My Keltec SU16 .556 has a proprietary trigger My bullpup has a proprietary trigger. Certain triggers themselves are proprietary, like the first versions of the AR Fostech Echo triggers, which actually required a proprietary bolt carrier. PSA plainly states not to expect that any parts that are from another manufacturer will necessarily fit their PA10 platform, as do other AR10 companies. It's known far and wide that the AR10 platforms are proprietary. Now could it be the trigger designs are common to each company's platform? Good question, which the guy asked. Maybe he could search. I for one would have enjoyed hearing new input ... current input as designs change year to year. This helps confirm old input that frankly can be either incorrect or out of date. There is one particular dude here, who may be using multiple ID's, who I find rather abrasive/confrontational. Not naming any names, but that attitude makes me not want to contribute. I personally don't read intro's on the various forums, and generally introduce myself gradually through conversation, not on specific intro pages. Many are the same. Many are living "gray" men who don't advertise themselves with regards to being interested in shooting. They are more private in that regard. I for one have never been challenged to do an intro on any forum, and I find it unnecessarily provocative that someone would do so. The guy's asking a simple question. Either answer it or ignore it. Don't crucify the guy for showing up is my 2¢. Now let me suit up in my body armor before replying.

Luddite crew here I guess. Trying to cater to joe blow from buffalo who doesn't know nothin bout no agb. If that's where you are, they should offer even less variety I suppose. I won't be buying, but hey, joe blow will be happy I guess.

Actually, it was by using it without an agb and then putting one on and seeing the difference in each case that I recall.

Not saying they should all have agb. They should just offer some with and some without. Having read through many reviews and watched many videos and read many threads on it, the number one recommended option for the gun is agb, and many go that route, and each one that does is cancelling out their warranty. You can make all the guns cycle by over gassing them, which is the easy remedy for an ailing system. Over means over, and as in beyond the correct amount, the necessary amount. Excess wears the gun excessively, particularly if you fire hot rounds. Faster followup shots on a properly gassed rifle=better rifle. They just need to put in one that works and is reliable, like for their 6.5 Creedmore. This is not rocket science, not asking for the moon. If the hearing act eventually gets passed, I'll be shooting suppressed with all my guns if possible. And the bottomline motivation is that they will sell more guns, and some at higher margins.

No change to the meaning of my previous posts. It's not complicated, at least for me. You have 2-4 settings; if one doesn't cycle, open it up more. Doesn't take a genius. What takes a genius is figuring out what to do when the gassing is incorrect and you don't have an adjustable gas block. Plus, the cost of shipping back firearms can be fairly expensive to the customer and PSA (who must ship it back, if not pay both ways). Why not just save everyone some pain and put it on. Probably less than the cost of shipping. " i dont see psa changing their production for an agb " Why would you say this. They have already added it to the 6.5 Creedmore. The .308 is the same platform. Not much of a stretch. In fact, I'll bet you some money they do in fact add an adjustable gas block for a slightly more expensive upper, like $50 more. It's just as easy of labor to put the AGB on as the regular, and in volume, the part can't be very expensive wholesale. The number they'd sell would go up with word of mouth. Why be satisfied with an over gassed gun? This gun was meant to be tuned because they are not Milspec, and so need some tuning to get right.

Not me, did the research and now asking PSA sell them with AGB before I buy. Sheesh, doesn't sound like you read the post.

Easier said than done if you have to take the hand guard and muzzle device off, plus if you've loctited or pinned the gas block it can be a pain. If they put an adjustable gas block in, maybe you wouldn't have to send it back conceivably. Maybe you installed the adjustable gas block poorly, etc. Just not a big deal for them to put it in first, better, with economies of scale. Less headache and heartache, plus, now the adjustable gas block is part of the warranty. I saw where one guy sent it back with a new adjustable gas block he put on, and they wouldn't cover it, and took the serial number off the warrantied list, even if he sent it in as it came originally at some future point. What a headache.

Actually, they have one offered for 6.5 Creedmor already.

From what I've read, these uppers can be (typically are) over-gassed, and the number one suggestion for a mod is installing an adjustable gas block. However, if you install one, you void your warranty, so why not sell them in the first place with an adjustable gas block? I would expect PSA would have fewer complaints and more happy customers. I think that would push sales strongly. I'd buy one with an adjustable gas block. Same for 6.5 Creedmoor, too.