ar-mountaineer

I was reading the reviews of the tacOps 1 and it says that it’s not compatible with an LR308 DPMS Gen 2. How would I know if it would work with mine? I’m building a DPMS, so does that mean it won’t work.....how the heck do I know what Gen I’m building?

So I’ve got to ask. What is your choice on charging handles? I hope that’s not a taboo topic, haha. Again, I want to pick something that I only have to buy once. I was looking at this one tacOps 1

Just looked it up and WV it is legal to have a suppressor. I can say, though, that both my wife and I are federal employees. Looks like something else to research now.

Funny thing. I cannot confirm but will not deny that my wife works for the FBI doing, you guessed it, firearm background checks. Haha. Too bad I get no preferential treatment if that was true. Again, I am not at liberty to divulge if the above statement is true, you know, even though we live within a few miles of the facility in WV.

Do you have a good website to get one from or a particular brand that you like more than others?

I appreciate the reply. I’m not used to being able to customize my guns. It’s always been “here’s the rifle, go get a deer”. I then got the AR15 but I had no input into it. This will be “my” gun in more than one sense. Something to be proud of and something grow into and learn new things with. The more I hear about very experienced shooters using a smaller barrel the more it is convincing me. I would love a try before you buy just so I can feel the recoil, what recovery it has and the noise level. I don’t go on any long hunts at least not packing in and packing out. Whitetail deer is as exotic as I get. And it’s usually within an area of no more than 20 acres (though there is much more land that I could go on, there just is no need). The deer are plentiful around me. I spend more time walking/backing people up/spotting than I do in my own hunts....for some reason they want to be out in the woods. I mean, I get it, I find my outlet with other things, hunting deer is just a great way if getting meat and low effort for me. It’s usually happens as I’m getting something out of the fridge then looking out the window and telling my wife I’m going to get the gun. I don’t shoot thousands of rounds a year myself, but the family sure does. There are a few times a year that everyone gets together to try out each other’s toys, do some trap shooting and target competitions. I don’t have to kill wildlife to survive but I like to know that I could. One of my favorite things is deer jerky and my wife likes to cut it up and prepare it. My last deer I made over 12 pounds of jerky out of. I’m going to continue to listen to personal expierences before I purchase an upper and barrel. I’ll mill out this 80% and get everything ready for just slapping on the complete upper that I will eventually purchase. I will say that I am absolutely abandoning the 24” barrel. I owe it to this forum for pointing me in the right direction.

Thanks for the reply. I’m learning more and more. Most important I want to buy quality. I don’t want something that won’t preform regardless of price. I want bang for my buck. I want the pieces that I pick out to be correct and work together. The 308 seems much harder to match up parts than the AR15. And of those parts trying to decide what is best. And I want the flattest shooting 308 I can get (I would rank this high on my list of desires), so if I can find ways to flatten the shot out to 400 yards that would be the ultimate goal. My current 308 bolt action rifle has a 22 inch barre if I remember correctly. I guess I don’t understand why its standard for hunting rifles to have long barrels and not for ar-type builds. I’m not in the business of using these for personal protection daily. My 308 build wouldn’t be my choice for a home intruder, it’s simply for occasional hunting and range time. I’ve got 3 small kids and if there is a home intruder I would use my AR15 (16 inch barrel with soft points) before this any day within my home. I’m likely to build a 9mm AR type after this one for the sole purpose of intruder protection. I will search some threads for Magwa. Thanks again.

Yes. That is the exact one that I bought. If it comes down to it I’ll just buy the aeroprecision Complete stripped lower for it if i end up buying it and it doesn’t work. I own up to my own mistakes if I purchase anything that is wrong bc in reality I make the decision. My coworkers nephew has a FFL and runs an AK47 business, if you’ve ever heard of them childersguns.com

That is the exact one I started out this whole build wanting to get. Then got derailed with the 24” talk. But here in lies my problem. AP didn’t have an 80% lower (that I saw) and I have no clue if it would fit a dpms lower. When looking at other sites it seemed like the AeroPrecision was compatible with dpms. If you know otherwise, that would make me happy

You all are very convincing about ditching the 24 inch bull barrel. This is why I came looking for help. I absolutely would not be using this for my job and dont plan on getting in any gun fights. Not my choice for home protection. I guess I have these delusions of being able to hit those super far shots. A shot of a 1000 yards is unfathomable to me. Really you hit that and aren’t some kind of sniper? I’d love to be able to practice to become that good. We’ve got 120 acres to play around with a high wall but it is more grown up where we live and have a 300+ acre farm an hour away to play on way way out in the country with open pastures. I just want a semi auto 308 for the possible black bear run in (I’ve had a few cubs run through my back yard and never saw mama, while neighbors had them on cam), occasional deer shot and to practice being a great long range shot. Everyone wants to hit that long range shot.

He fully admits he doesn’t know much about the 308 build which is why he sent me out to figure it out, haha. I see your links to what I am sure are very fine barrels. But I am looking for a complete dpms upper already assembled. I don’t want to go through that assembly plus I’m not sure about the tools. Complete novice here, remember. I’ll get help with the 80% lower to make it functional and the assembly of the parts kit. Here would be my task for anyone who would accept it (mainly bc I’ve failed in my attempt so far). If you were building a very high grade of dpms 308 what parts would you put on it. At this point I have more money than brains in regards to this. I have the 80% lower and parts kit and apparently the NiB BCG bc I bought it as referenced in this thread. I need a complete upper (barrel -let’s go 18-20”-hand guard, gas block etc already installed), charging handle, buffer parts, and buttstock (prefer rifle length with adjustable chin rest). Budget of let’s say $1200 for the stuff I don’t have. I’ll handle the glass separate.

I love hearing the experience of someone that has had one. Definitely food for thought. What were your hang ups about it? Just the weight or was there something else you didn’t like about it or did you just simply like the shorter barrel just that much more?

Thanks for the heads up about moriarti. In what I’ve found just by comparing prices they seem higher than just about everyone out there. As for the barrel you linked to, I’m looking for a fully assembled complete upper. I will discuss going to a shorter barrel with my father in law. He’s the one who put the 24” barrel in my head. He said if I want to make it a usable rifle for all situations than that’s what I want. The hard part was finding a complete upper with a 24” barrel. All I could basically find was the bull barrel. So I started researching it. I’m open to non bull barrels. I’ve searched for days for a dpms .750 gas block complete upper in a 24 inch and came up with very few results. 20 inch seems common. I’m not going to say price is no object but I want the best build for me. I only want to build it once and want to not regret a purchase. I call my back deck my hunting blind, the deer pay no attention to you if you are on it, but the second you step off then they are gone. Same with being on the tractor, I can run it for hours and get off of it, throw rocks at the deer but if I just try to walk to them without the tractor they are gone. Heres my obligatory AR15 pic

I like to think I’m a pretty good shot (don’t we all). Upon doing my research (admittedly mostly on the internet) I’ve gained the information that a 308 round needs atleast 20” barrel to fully burn. Is that incorrect? The person I most listen to regardless of what I read is my father in law. He is an over kill type of guy, kind of like, you never know what you will use this for. He’s the one who told me about going with the 24. I was going to go with a 20. He had a 20 inch bull barrel (no fluting) on an AR15 build. I hold that free hand much more steady than my 16” non bull barrel AR15. He also said the reason he doesn’t shoot that AR15 much is because of weight. Ideally this would be light weight and highly accurate. What kind of weight difference are we talking about (roughly) with a fluted bull barrel v non bull barrel. Anyone have any real world side by side comparison?

Thanks for that. Purchased. Reviews looked good.

I want to thank a previous poster on correcting my terminology, which just shows my noviceness. I got my lower from Daytona tactical. The lower parts kit was from the same site and the brand was cmmg. My hunting consists of going to my back deck and picking off deer, so no need to lug this gun anywhere, haha. My last deer consisted of me yelling at the deer and telling him I was going in to get my gun. My main purpose for this gun is fun out on the back 40 target shooting and for black bear protection around the house. I want this to be a steady, accurate shooter at long distances but about 350-400 yards would be my absolute max shot taken. Most shots will be steadied/braced in some fashion in the 100-200 yard range. My wife likes just sending off 30 rounds on the AR15 as fast as she can without really aiming at anything except the ground somewhere around the target. I have a feeling she won’t want to do this with the 308 if she even ever pulls the trigger on it due to its weight. i want to make sure I get compatible parts bc this will ultimately be about a $1500 build.

Hello all, I’ve found this forum when I was researching my AR10 build. I lack considerable knowledge with building guns but my father in law has built many many AR15s. I have a 15 that was built by him. He will be teaching me all I need to know about actually milling out the 80% lower and assembling it all for the AR10. My wife and I have recently built a house out on the family farm. My current gun of choice for deer hunting is a 308 and is part of the reason why I want to build this AR10. Like I said, my father in law will help me physically build this thing but it is up to me to source all the components. He said that he doesn’t want to be to blame for it not fitting together like the AR15. He’s only half joking I hope. I have found out that the ar10 is not as easy to piece together. I very recently purchased a DPMS 80% lower and parts kit (don’t have it yet but it’s ordered). I figured I’d start with this since it will take the most work and then research some more to finish it all out. I know exactly what I want I just don’t know if it’s all going to work together. I know I have to stay with all dpms now, but is all dpms interchangeable between manufacturers? Ideally I want a 24” fluted bull barrel and rifle length buttstock. I have found the complete upper at moriarti armaments but I would really like to know if the one I found (dpms) would work with the dpms lower I’ve got coming. I would appreciate any help you can send my way.