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I got a poop tossing ape trying to insult me by instigating a meme war. So gay. (Grow up) Dude I got a beautiful family and a life worth living. Go play fag-tag elsewhere. Your clout on this little website does not entitle you to be rancid, anyways this is blog is my little corner of it you could easily ignore my dumbass. If Mr Matt Cross wants to mediate (thanks I guess), and postulate my builds’ “special purpose” well Mr Matt Cross I invite you to read. You should be able to figure the what and why of it, if you set aside your prejudice against a trigger and forgive my technical ignorance and then maybe you can translate my meaning into an acceptable knuckle dragging dialect. (For others and their “anti-trolling” ears) I want my gun to be weigh two pounds, be invisible and shoot purple lasers around corners. No Matt, precision shooting is not on my priority list. I did ask previously if the trigger is so terrible it would prevent me from using the rifle for using it as a learning tool for the basics of precision shooting. (As in the basics) That went unanswered. And it’s fairly effing obvious I’m not using binary for being a shooting student. I already addressed the room clearing/ apocalypse aspect. Sorry if you guys’ little group has idiot wannabes wanting you to help build the bat gun and it ruffles your feathers. Your projected animosity towards me is revealing. I’ll spell it out again, BOLD LETTERS: WHAT DO I WANT THE RIFLE TO DO EFFECTIVELY TEACH ME ABOUT THE RIFLE, THE PLATFORM AND ITS NUANCES HAVE AN INSPIRATIONAL QUALITY, BROADCAST FREEDOM, ENUNCIATE AN AMERICAN MENTALITY CAST LEAD DOWN RANGE IN A ACCEPTABLE MANNER AND BE SAFE TO OPERATE, As far as this forum goes, I don’t need poop posting emotional western types judging my gun components choices. If you got hate and feel the need, speak your mind and move on. I certainly don’t have to defend my position, least of all places here. What is useful is the how and why some components may/may not help me create this super heavy, ammo wasting, not hyper-accurate rifle. Of course anyone could provide technical info or real and relevant experience with similar installs/builds and it would be happily received. Leave your homo-erotic memes at home bois. Maybe it’s maddening to *some* that they do not perceive the builds intended practical purposes. Sorry, that’s because they/zim/zer are ether not reading, or not understanding (ether out of pig headedness or idiocy) the build is me. The purpose is me. if I don’t like binary I’ll change it, or build another. Because I’ll know how. im not doing this because I NEED the gun, if that was the case I’d just buy it (and save money) And spare all this ungodly gibber-gabber. moving forward I’m interested in TECHNICAL Publications on/about the gas/recoil system specific to 308. BCG weight as effects function, pretty much anything accurate, technical and published specific on the LR308 platform and it’s DI gas system. Point me in that direction and I’ll appreciate it, and will pay it forward. Anything else anyone thinks might help me get off on a better foot. That information is also welcomed. Where is the best information on about buffer springs? Outside of this forum, where do ya’ll go to do detailed study on the LR308? Thanks beautiful people, enjoy your day.

wHY do you wANt sUCh a dumb wEApOn??. Derrrr. (Because all my other weapons are smart and I’m pro-diversity) I don’t * want it. -I want to build it. Dear ape-man, you waste our time.

??……As in a second firing position? (Going from safe-bang TO safe-bang-bang bang) Whatever dude, you are not even reading my lengthy explaintions. In fact you are trolling. And if your not doing it purposely then I can’t answer questions I’ve already stated in a way you understand. (Maybe it’s just a mental wavelength disjunction) What’s binary gonna do for me? You ask. Here is your DIRecT answer. It’s gonna be cool to make. Cool to show off, then it’s gonna rot and rust in my safe! And when it’s not doing that, it’s gonna shoot bullets. Sometimes 2. It’s just like banging chicks, we all want to double up, but only have one barrel. have a good night

Mr 98, you asked again why binary,…..Because America! If no other reason to say I did it, Also I will repeat myself again…., the knowledge and the process IS the purpose, the firearm is secondary

Mr 98, I appreciate the combination of of your knowledge base and your time spent replying. No man, I never demanded anything from you. Maybe something was lost in text. In my mind the conversation went like: started (by myself) “hey internet, im probably gonna botch up this gun cause im clueless but im going for it, what do you think?”, 98 says take that plan to the trash— okay, what exactly am I supposed to do with that info? Because building a binary 308 is what I want to do. And I know they exist and work. A question I would ask you! Is the BSFIII really that shitty, that I wouldn’t even want it in any gun I had? go back and read, I explain thoroughly why binary is central to my idea. Like you asked in fact. But I still don’t know YOUR reasoning. You’ve explained nothing. (I’m seeking technical knowledge and the benefit of experience) you’ve Maybe eluded to your lack of confidence in the trigger. But no information. (That’s fine) I stated, if maybe I knew some of what you know I could sort it out. Do you suspect it will not work/ function properly? I’m not gonna try and make assumptions about your animos to ether my build idea or to the new clueless fool on the forum (me) but I’m reading it. About the 42 spring, I guess I stand corrected, I’ve asked this compatibility question to myself and guess I got it wrong. Giessle himself stated the spring has 35-40% more resilience and is 100% better than standard, I paired that with poorly referenced sources saying 15’s springs are usable. That made me guess it could work. And I have some interesting background with braided springs and it’s really cool engineering. (Cool engineering being a theme of the build) I’m also attracted to the Giessle charge handle (ar10) but cannot determine if it will fit, can you advise? Also based on something you authored, what could I do, / should I do if my gas tube isn’t correctly “timed?” Also, if I specifically purchase a lower with a third function position, I want it to have a third function. That’s how I roll. ive seen a few posts pop up while (*trying to ) typing so sorry if we overpass in communication.

Cool. I will consider your input. But can anyone diagnose my reluctance to adopt anything from Armalite? I’ve always been an underdog advocate

Who here has installed a BSFIII on a 308? I’m going for it. What should I know?

I read somewheres that the echo will not be compatible with DPMS. Don’t know. Originally the echo was part of my plan. Currently hopefull about the Franklin. Whoever can give me more practical info on this, please do.

I’m taking heat! And I haven’t even busted out the locktite yet. I got an angry monkey and some others throwin shade about the “dream” of a binary. Let’s address a few aspects of that. Let me try and paint a picture. Give the audience the emotion and human drive behind what I expected to be a mostly technical discourse. Why do I want this build to hold a binary? Because! …. (And F you to anyone thinking I don’t NEED or should be able to own it) (see upcoming 2A tirade) Because it’s cool. — and I mean that in a mature, adult-like way. I am amazed at the design and functionality of this 70 some year old engineered platform. The complexity and added capability of the trigger set appeals to me. Because other firing settings are not legal. (No interest in auto fire) But 3 rd burst would be cool. Because I picked up from reading, the echo trigger was not compatible with my intended build. Because this receiver set was intended to hold the binary function. Selector/safety says so. (I’ll try and post pic) Because the binary function aligns with my purpose of doing the build. I like challenges and learning, sometimes I do this by jumping in over my head or beyond my comfort zone. Hey new guy! Don’t you know binary triggers are trash/ gimmicky? I didn’t expect strangers to down right shoot the idea down without even defending their stand point. (I guess maybe it had some universal hate) I don’t expect the trigger to perform at highest levels of precision shooting, I do expect the build to be able to outperform my (current) abilities as a shooter. I think I could learn and grow just fine with the trigger. (Even if the binary setting is less than functional) No, if the trigger functions and is not a safety issue, binary is exactly what I want this weapon to sport. (A primary purpose of this “build” is a combined expression of my 2nd Amendment and 1st amendment- freedoms granted to me by God and guaranteed by the USA Constitution.) In case you didn’t read above, I said I was building a “show piece”. [oh no! Those internet gun guys where right, this binary idea is not what I want] Step one: replace trigger with drop in competition grade trigger. Step two: never chase dreams again Moving forward, BSFIII: Aside from not being as “tits” as super precision triggers what makes it unworthy of considering or employing in my build. If a stranger (especially one with expertise) says my blue prints belong in the “shiitcan”, I would want to hear there reasons. Not to be told to defend (the emotional aspects of) my already condemned plan. Thanks guy. I’ve already learned a lot. For those willing, can you tell me what difficulties I potentially face with my bang bang switch? What may I not know about this device or installation? @edgecrusher , Yeah, I’ve shot a rifle. One or two. They are made of metal right? Likely, if I find myself trekking through post apocalyptic rough country terrain this build would not be a primary choice. Not likely at all. My home terf is pretty flat and I’m not weak, I can hump it. Two pounds is not nothing, just it’s not my concern. (Just ask my mountain bike) Maybe a second go at this building AR’s I will change my mindset and make a pencil barrel carbine, but that’s not what I’m doing this time. Also I can’t say I for sure understand “G1” or “G2”, I was told to measure- but what? From one YouTube video it looks like I have features of both. These are the components I have or considering, open to all useful input. Especially estimated pitfalls or compatibility issues LFA matched receivers with 15” handguard BSFIII binary trigger 2A full length 308 tube Giessle super 42 spring with (H2/H1)? Planning for future suppressor capabilities if 42 spring doesn’t work the Franklin trigger comes with spring I’ll use fancy pro freedom engraved covers and buttons stock- unknown? Faxon nitride bcg Faxon 18” flute moly barrel Some quality adjustable gas block (recommendations) faxon gas tube (j b/c) Thanks for reading. Go ahead and let me know just how far I’m in the weeds about any of this.

Blank statement directives do not help me. I want to hear your reasons. Then maybe I can think as you. But right now, you are treading on my dreams.

I’m just starting out. Brand new to this world. I’m sure to screw lots up. Asking for any and all help. Or You are welcome to follow along. Here we go. God bless the Constitution and those willing to protect it. About (some time) ago, I decided building this rig was what I needed to do in life. I was not in a hurry. The knowledge and capabilities gained was most of the motivation. The firearm is secondary- but I want it to be remarkable. Something worthy of its own line item in my will and testament. When I made up my mind to do this, I knew no difference between AR10/AR308/DPMS/gen 2 and I’m probably still getting it all sorted. I should have started reading this forum months ago. The beginning (where Im at now)- I’ve got an matched upper/lower set plus a hand guard from Live Free Armory. And also, central to the build I envisioned a BSFIII Franklin binary trigger. That’s it, that and some pin punches. (No tools yet) The path and all the components I will end up getting is known only by God. I’m still learning component compatibility. My end goal I had in mind was an amalgamation of a “show-piece” / WROL (durability and longevity) / target and precision shoot learning item Next on the grocery list was the barrel and bolt. I think a big/barrel match is a good idea. This decision for me is huge. It’s big money. I wanted 18”, fluted, not stainless steel. (Mostly because for looks) Something about Faxon made me feel good. But I just read a rant from a hot shot on here crapping on the company and it’s comprised standards. That’s when I decided to just blog the whole process on here before I even buy another part. The finish line: I want something that can roar like a mother jammer, take long clean shots, stay tough and reliable in case of “wokeness” reaches critical levels, things I am less concerned about are: price at expense of quality, weight, fussy ammo diet. Some of the questions in my head right now. What barrel/bolt group should I consider to be successful? Is the Giessle Super 42 buffer spring a good option for me? Will it be compatible with binary function? I’m unclear about The Giessle Ambo charging handle, the site says it is not compatible with DPMS gen 2 (or not compatible with all) Is my lower/upper set DPMS gen 2 (I think so) As for stock, something great for long shooting and gotta have it in ODG. Happy to be here and eager to express my 2A while I still got it. Thankful in advance for all the knowledge, wisdom and help y’all bring. And Thank you Lord, may this build and my efforts bring glory to your kingdom, I pray. Here (we) go. PS, by the end we should have a whole human experience of assembling a mighty rod of iron recorded, I sincerely hope in the process I can add value to this fine group of freedom lovers. Peace.