98Z5V Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Why do you need the scope that far back? Is the eye relief that bad on that thing, that you have to have it buried at the back of the rifle? I have scopes all over on rifles, but that seems "pretty far back," IMHO. Every rifle is different, every scope is different, I get that. Here's an example of the scope placement on my MK12 build: I will get the glass as low as I can on a rifle. This was as low as I could go on this one. Different rifle, ADM Recon mount with a Millett DMS-1 scope, 30mm. As low as I could make this one, but as far forward as I could push it and still get proper eye relief. It's damn near a true 1x, and I can use the back up sights through it, roughly. It's not right on, but they work through the scope on 1x, but not at longer ranges. If your eye relief requires you to have the scope THAT far back, then consider shortening up the length of pull to move YOU forward, and move the scope forward. If you're a giant like Larry, this might not help you... <lmao> Let's see how long it takes for Larry to see this... :banana: Edited April 2, 2015 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasoGunner Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Ok. I now know why I hated math so much in school! After research and measuring actual parts the Magpul MBUS front and rear sights are .51" above rail folded down. I am working the numbers to see how wide the eyepiece is down from center on the SWFA 16x. I only have to clear the rear sight. Does this seem resonable to come up with the correct Warne Rings. They measure ring height from top of rail to bottom of scope tube. So if all my measurements are from tube centerline (30mm tube) I should be on the right track! Any comments welcome! Thanks PasoGunner Edited April 2, 2015 by PasoGunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasoGunner Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Well here's what I came up with. Looks like the ultra high QD rings are the only one that will go above the Magpul MBUS rear sight. The only other option is if the scope sits far enough forward that the rear sight is not covered by scope. I am still researching. One the rifle is finished I cam measure Ey relief on SWFA scope and go from there! Don't beat me up too bad I've been working all night! PasoGunner Edited April 2, 2015 by PasoGunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Got the scope in-hand yet? I know it sucks, but all the measurements will be easier that way. Once you have the scope, I know you want to mount it up right away - instead of waiting a few more days for rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasoGunner Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 No don't have the scope ordered yet I keep over thinking this whole scope deal. 12x, 16x, 20x back and forth depending what I read and who I talk to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PasoGunner Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 My main goal is the 750 yard target on the hill at our range on HWY1. I may try shooting further but I also want to shoot at 100-300 yards for regular work. The man sized target at 750 yards is my "goal" I feel if I can learn to hit that I will be a success. I have so much to learn to shoot right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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