branman530

OK! After months of trying to find answers to this reticle online and employing the help of Bushnell on this reticle (to minimal avail); I decided to figure it out myself. According to Bushnell, there are too many variables with each gun to give a rough estimate as to the "mil-hash, or milrad" values, so basically I downloaded an app on my phone, entered in my information and here's what I came up with. I downloaded the app "strelok pro" and it helped immensely. This info is pretty unique to my gun, but if you have this same scope, message me and i'll walk you through it. Once you realize it's a MilRad scope it sure helps. Nowhere did I see this info in my manual, but I need to double check. This info is for a black rain 308 with a 1:10 twist rate shooting a 168 gr sighted in at 200 yards, with the scope height being roughly 2 7/8" above the bore. I hope this helps someone! I could have used it 6 months ago!

Do you guys recommend "breaking in the barrel"? I know there's been a lot of conversation about best practices for a new rifle, but i was just wondering the general rule of thumb. Thanks for the input!

Here's the finished product. I went with the Bushnelll Elite 1-6.5 scope and a burris PEPR mount. Also debating on a magpul angled grip or the standard vertical foregrip. Hope you guys like it!

Well, despite being on the waiting list, the place I ordered the BCG from (firearms4less) actually got 2 Black Rain bolt carriers in stock but put them on gunbroker to auction them off... Are you ready for this... I made him an offer over the phone and bought one for $1,000. Good Lord. It turned out to be a good decision, even though it hurt.. because after watching the auction for the second BCG, it went for nearly $1,400... These prices are outrageous. The good news is that i'm almost done with the build and it looks like (from watching the news) Obama's hammer will drop sometime this week on us... MOLON LABE!!!!!!!

Good stuff.

I'm in desparate need of one as well! let me know and i'll be more than happy to buy!

Well, It looks like my project is indefinitely put on hold due to the Bolt Carrier Group availability. I was told (before the Newtown tradgedy) i was on the waiting list for a black rain 308 BCG that it would be shipped out around Christmas. I emailed the website (firearms4less) and it looks like all parts are backordered until further notice. I went ahead and purchased a JP enterprises BCG as a backup until the BRO shipped, but i was just emailed by JP and these are on backorder with no estimated ETA as well. UGH! It looks like i'll never get this project done.... Any thoughts?

i like that trigger. I decided to go with the troy rail after i saw it on your post. should be here tuesday. What is the deal with the safety? i like the looks of it, is it magpul?

Nice! Did you run into any problems with the whole "high profile/low profile" alignment of the top rail? I'm anxious to see this rail on the gun. I'd like a Daniel defense 7.62 lite rail but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it'll fit the black rain upper. Keep us posted with pics!

Nice! Thanks for the help. I like the DD rails so I hope it'll work!

I realize that. I ordered the part via email from Brennan at firearms4less, that he said was a BRO 308 quad rail. I received the evolution rail. They do make a 308 quad rail but I've never seen one other than on their website.

It may be me being misinformed. Black Rain says that the receiver sets are DPMS style, so i assumed that they had different profile (old "high profile" and newer "low profile") top rails. I measured the area above the charging handle (1/8th inch) which, according to the article i read, makes this a low profile receiver. Hopefully I am just reading this wrong or reading too much into it, but this has proven difficult in ordering a handguard that lines up with the upper receiver. To answer your questions: I have a black rain ordnance fallout 10 receiver set. I ordered what i thought was a black rain quadrail handguard for the .308- http://www.marksarmory.com/Black_Rain_Ordnance_BRO_Quad_Rail_p/bro-ffr-m-blk.htm I received an "evolution rail" http://www.marksarmory.com/Black_Rain_Ordnance_BRO_Evolution_Rail_Midlength_p/bro-sam-m-blk-223.htm I'm not crazy about this rail and i would, ideally, like a Daniel Defense 7.62 lite rail. But when i read a review, it said that it would not align with a new style DPMS receiver height. Hopefully i'm just reading too far into this and i can send back the evolution rail and install a DD rail. Any suggestions are appreciated. thanks.

True. I'd love to have one of their quad rails for the .308, but it looks like they're non-existent (other than on their website). I emailed BRO to ask if the ar-15 quad rail would work (they're pretty easy to find) but the question wasn't answered and i was referred to Brennan at Firearms4less.com (who has been really helpful). Unfortunately though, it looks like Black Rain is severely "light" on their .308 line of parts and i'm stuck compromising on a $3,000 rifle. I could have my ideal rifle, but only in a .223 (and for $1,300 less)... But hey, hopefully the buyers remorse will go away once i get to shoot it! Also, it looks like the shipment of BRO bolt carrier groups will be coming in within the next few weeks, so i should be able to head out to the range (weather permitting) sometime around Christmas/New Years. :)

are you still getting the troy handguard? I'm anxious to see how it looks. I'm going through handguard anxiety haha... i'd love a full quad rail but it looks easier said than done...

Hey guys, I got the 9" black rain ff hand guard in the mail today and it wasn't what I thought. It was supposed to be the quad rail, but it turns out it's the different model, which is basically like an aluminum tube with a top rail and rail inserts that can be added along the bottom/side slots (made by Samson). I was wanting something like a Daniel Defense 7.62 lite rail, but it looks like after some digging that there are two different "profiles" of receiver. I have the low profile and it looks like the options are pretty limited as to quad rails. Does anyone have any suggestions? I appreciate it!

I talked to the guy at firearms 4 less and he said it does come with the handguard, just didn't mention it in the description. Should have it all together minus the bolt carrier group tomorrow. The BCG hasn't shipped yet like I originally thought... :(

Update: the barrel came in today and it is gorgeous... cant wait to shoot it! Also, I've been in touch with a guy named Brennan at firearms4less who has been helping me locate some hard to find black rain parts. They had a .308 black rain handguard that i decided to go with over the daniel defense... (probably a bad choice), but i like the way the BRO's look... It looks like i'll be in the market for a barrel nut, does anyone have any suggestions? It'll be a free-float handguard, so i didn't know if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help guys!

lol funny, i actually had a barrel in the cart at Joes fish chips and rifle barrels, but i thought better of it haha

Gotcha. I should have read it a little better, haha. The moe + grip feels awesome. I was worried about fitting issues on the 308 receiver but it seems to fit perfect. Can't wait for the rest of the parts to arrive! With the JP barrel kit that includes the "headspaced bolt" should I not worry about double checking the headspace when I install the barrel?

Hmmm.. I didn't know about these gaps.. I'm using the moe + grip that's rubberized, so the top tabs aren't a rigid plastic, they're pretty soft so they seem to contour the receiver pretty well (complete luck). About the spring, I removed the screw in the receiver and put the spring and pin through the bottom and installed the grip with no problems. Should I take the grip off and trim the spring and reinstall the set screw? I can't see any gaps but I don't want to take any chances..

Got the lower parts kit in the mail along with the anti-roll pins. Couldn't resist, so I figured i'd go ahead and get started...

PS- now i just have to figure out how to put all this stuff together. I'm starting with a kitchen table, a screwdriver and some allen wrenches. I know i sound like a major FNG... I do have a couple good buddies that seem to know a lot more than me about building AR's

"OUCH" -My wallet Just a summary thus far, I went on a shopping spree this evening when I saw that firearms4less shipped my BCG, I went ahead and ordered everything (as far as i know) to complete the build. WOW, I didn't realize what I was getting into, but I wanted to make it like a bandaid. Now, hopefully, i just have to worry about getting it all put together, and not so much paying for it. Here's a summary of the parts ordered so far: (prices include shipping) Black Rain Ordnance fallout 10 Norguard finish upper/lower $640 DPMS lower parts kit with KNS anti-roll/walk pins $105 Magpul UBR stock $246 heavy buffer.com spring and buffer $123 Black Rain Ordnance BCG $364 Black Rain Ordnance Norguard charging handle and Dust Cover $146 JP Enterprises 18" SS barrel (flash hider, low profile gas block,tube,bolt) $728 Daniel Defense 7.62 lite rail 12"- $394.95 After watching a few videos on the lr-308 online, i've seen some over/under gassing problems and some jamming problems etc. With this setup, does anyone forsee any possible reliability issues with this build? The JP barrel kit said it was headspaced to the supplied bolt and includes an adjustable gas block (two potential problems i was worried about) so hopefully that may allieviate possible problems along with the heavy buffer? I'm having some serious buyers remorse right now when i added the above totals to over 2,700.. good lord. Does anyone have 2700 i can borrow? (and by borrow i mean "have") :D Thanks for the moral support guys...

went with the magpul MOE + rubberized grip, but after some digging, i wonder if the contours of the part that extends up onto the gun will match the lower receiver contour. I see a lot of people going with the standard size grip without the part that extends up. I'm gonna try it out to see if it bolts up ok, maybe a little tension on the screw will make it fit a little better. If not, i'm sure i'll go with another magpul. I'm a pretty big fan of their stuff on my ar 15 and ar 15-22 (love that gun, it's a blast to shoot).

So, after some digging, i was able to locate a CMMG 16" and 18" stainless barrel with a mid-length gas system. http://www.cmmginc.com/product_p/38d200b.htm Do you guys think this would be a good route? I haven't had any experience with CMMG, but the stats look to be everything i'm looking for.Still undecided on whether to go 18" or 16".. I shouldn't be doing much shooting over 200+ yards, but if i had to, i'd like to know i could be accurate. Any thoughts?