Mostly looking for a do it all type rifle. Something to shoot for pleasure with some friends and do a little hunting. I've always hunted with a .30-30 but looking at some land that I will have to be making some longer shots on. Also tired of hearing my dad talk up his 7mm haha. Around here about the longest shot your going to be able to make is 500-600 or so yards. I also have access to a .300 Weatherby if I need to go further. As for optics if I can swing it I will. But they are not necessary for now. If need be I can get them later next year before the season opens. Chris