odie64

Herk308 Everything that I have read about PSA functioning issues seems to be caused by a too strong extractor spring. I used a DPMS Spec Nickel Boron coated BCG from Plus 1 Armory. I cant swear that is the answer and I only have 60 rds. through my PA 10 at this time, but the results are looking promising.

After getting the muzzle brake pinned and welded and the correct bolt catch installed, I was able to take the PSA PA10 to the range tonight. I only ran 60 rounds through it tonight , but it ran without a hitch. Feeding, ejecting and cycling were uneventful. I only shot it tonight to get the Vortex Spitfire 3x Prism sight dialed in. I am not the best at zeroing optics but it only took 2 groups of five to get a good base zero. I was resting on the bench and was somewhat sloppy but managed to get it to shoot to point of aim. I was somewhat concerned about the PSA PA10 after reading all the comments on the teething problems they have been having. Mine is a Gen 2 upper and lower and I used a DPMS spec BCG from a different manufacturer. At this time I have no function issues and the brass cases look good, only a random few have a slight ding to the case mouth. I think that was from the shells that hit the Brass deflector. the pics are of the rifle, a five shot group verifying a rough zero( with a flyer high left) and some quick shot offhand shooting at 25 yards The guy next to me in the lane to the right was also shooting a PSA PA10... thought that was pretty cool

This will be a build list, cost and lessons learned post about building a PSA PA10 Gen II .308 AR platform rifle. I started the build with the mindset that I could get a good quality upper , lower and barrel combo for a reasonable price, so I could splurge on better quality components and come away with a solid performing rifle. The core of the rifle is the PSA PA10 Gen II upper , lower and 14.7" barrel. I price shopped on the LPK and bought a DPMS LPK for $69.99 figuring I would save $30.00 over the PSA LPK, but we will get to that later. I will list the parts and then note where I could have saved some money is I went with some generic options over some of the components I selected to build this rifle. PARTS LIST: PSA Gen 2 PA10 .308 stripped lower $99.99 PSA AR10 14.7" mid length barrel $99.99 PSA PA10 Gen2 complete upper $149.99 PSA PA10 pivot pin $14.99 PSA PA10 .308 takedown pin $16.95 Midwest Industries 308ss15 DLM rail $209.95 ACE skeleton stock 9.9" $91.99 JP Enterprises silent capture recoil spring assy Gen @ AR-10, LR 308 $139.95 Vltor BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 Med CH $52.15 Troy Industries low profile gas block $35.99 gas tube mid length $13.86 SilencerCo Specwar 762 Muzzle Brake $79.99 DPMS LPK .308 $69.99 Plus 1 Armory Nickle Boron DPMS Spec .308 BCG $179.99 Doublestar A2 Buffer Tube $24.99 MagPul MOE RVG $26.99 MagPul K2 Grip Black $24.99 Vortex Optics Spitfire 3x Prism Scope w/ EBR-556B Reticle $314.10 TOTAL COST $1646.84 MINUS OPTICS AND ACCESSORIES (MagPul grip and RVG) $1280.75 LESSONS LEARNED: PSA has a lot of PSA specific parts, trying to save a buck or thirty has cost me more. Everyone plays by their own rules, All the same yet different A little more research and less impulse would go a long way If they recommend to use only their parts, heed their advice Patience is a virtue ON THE CHEAP( going full budget build): NO need to upgrade to MagPul grip and RVG all LPKs come with an A2 pistol grip Convention buffer and spring saves money Rear stocks are cheap, did not need the ACE skeletonize rear stock Charging handles are cheap .308 muzzles devices are cheap can be had as cheap as $15.00 (had a .308 A2 style flash hider in a parts box) There is a large variety of front rail systems did not need to spend over $200.00 on a free float rail generic rail $24.21 .308 recoil spring $5.99 .308 buffer $5.25 AR 3 prong Flash hider $9.90 PSA lpk $99.99 TOTAL PARTS $145.34 UPGRADE PARTS $630.96 BUILD MINUS OPTICS AND MAGPUL PARTS $1280.75 MINUS UPGRADE PARTS $630.96 TOTAL $649.79 PLUS BUDGET PARTS $145.34 TOTAL BUDGET BUILD $795.13 Keen observers will note the pivot and takedown pins are incorrect. I hope to have it at the range this weekend but I have a bolt catch issue and need to get the Muzzle brake pinned and welded. I know this was long but hopeful it was informative and will help someone avoid the mistakes I made. odie64

Cool ,I noticed it was missing when I joined a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was just a list of manufacturers and not a brand specific forum list. Going to check it out

I did use some grease to lube the threads on the barrel nut when I assembled the upper. It does seem to have an oily property to it. If that is the case I suspect after a short time it will dissipate completely.

Well you know it IS a Gen 2. I didn't have a function issue and it did not seem to be a safety issue. I just posted to see if I was the only one that had this

I noticed some moisture in my upper receiver at the top after my initial range session with my PSA PA10 Build. The rifle functioned flawlessly and I was using Sellier & Bellot .308 (147gr??) ammo. It's hard to tell but it looks like it may be coming from the gas tube. The rifle has PSA (fn) 14.7 barrel with a pinned and welded SilencerCo 7.62 specwar muzzle brake. I have other AR Platform rifles in 5.56, 9mm and 300 blackout and never noted this on any of those calibers. This is my first 308AR rifle, is this common or signs of something wrong?

I posted more about my build under the .308 parts section. I think you will like it.

After getting the muzzle brake pinned and welded and the correct bolt catch installed, I was able to take the PSA PA10 to the range tonight. I only ran 60 rounds through it tonight , but it ran without a hitch. Feeding, ejecting and cycling were uneventful. I only shot it tonight to get the Vortex Spitfire 3x Prism sight dialed in. I am not the best at zeroing optics but it only took 2 groups of five to get a good base zero. I was rest on the bench and was somewhat sloppy but managed to get it to shoot to point of aim. I was somewhat concerned about the PSA PA10 after reading all the comments on the teething problems they have been having. Mine is a Gen2 up[per and lower and I used a DPMS spec BCG from a different manufacturer. At this time I have no function issues and the brass cases look good, only a random few have a slight ding to the case mouth. This pics are from the range session, a pic of the rifles a five shot group verifying rough zero( with a flyer high right) and some quick shot offhand shooting at 25 yards The guy next to me in the lane to the right was also shooting a PSA PA10... thought that was pretty cool

This will be a build list, cost and lessons learned post about building a PSA PA10 Gen II .308 AR platform rifle. I started the build with the mindset that I could get a good quality upper , lower and barrel combo for a reasonable price, so I could splurge on better quality components and come away with a solid performing rifle. The core of the rifle is the PSA PA10 Gen II upper , lower and 14.7" barrel. I price shopped on the LPK and bought a DPMS LPK for $69.99 figuring I would save $30.00 over the PSA LPK, but we will get to that later. I will list the parts and then note where I could have saved some money is I went with some generic options over some of the components I selected to build this rifle. PARTS LIST: PSA Gen 2 PA10 .308 stripped lower $99.99 PSA AR10 14.7" mid length barrel $99.99 PSA PA10 Gen2 complete upper $149.99 PSA PA10 pivot pin $14.99 PSA PA10 .308 takedown pin $16.95 Midwest Industries 308ss15 DLM rail $209.95 ACE skeleton stock 9.9" $91.99 JP Enterprises silent capture recoil spring assy Gen @ AR-10, LR 308 $139.95 Vltor BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 Med CH $52.15 Troy Industries low profile gas block $35.99 gas tube mid length $13.86 SilencerCo Specwar 762 Muzzle Brake $79.99 DPMS LPK .308 $69.99 Plus 1 Armory Nickle Boron DPMS Spec .308 BCG $179.99 Doublestar A2 Buffer Tube $24.99 MagPul MOE RVG $26.99 MagPul K2 Grip Black $24.99 Vortex Optics Spitfire 3x Prism Scope w/ EBR-556B Reticle $314.10 TOTAL COST $1646.84 MINUS OPTICS AND ACCESSORIES (MagPul grip and RVG) $1280.75 LESSONS LEARNED: PSA has a lot of PSA specific parts, trying to save a buck or thirty has cost me more. Everyone plays by their own rules, All the same yet different A little more research and less impulse would go a long way If they recommend to use only their parts, heed their advice Patience is a virtue ON THE CHEAP( going full budget build): NO need to upgrade to MagPul grip and RVG all LPKs come with an A2 pistol grip Convention buffer and spring saves money Rear stocks are cheap, did not need the ACE skeletonize rear stock Charging handles are cheap .308 muzzles devices are cheap can be had as cheap as $15.00 (had a .308 A2 style flash hider in a parts box) There is a large variety of front rail systems did not need to spend over $200.00 on a free float rail generic rail $24.21 .308 recoil spring $5.99 .308 buffer $5.25 AR 3 prong Flash hider $9.90 PSA lpk $99.99 TOTAL PARTS $145.34 UPGRADE PARTS $630.96 BUILD MINUS OPTICS AND MAGPUL PARTS $1280.75 MINUS UPGRADE PARTS $630.96 TOTAL $649.79 PLUS BUDGET PARTS $145.34 TOTAL BUDGET BUILD $795.13 Keen observers will note the pivot and takedown pins are incorrect. I hope to have it at the range this weekend but I have a bolt catch issue and need to get the Muzzle brake pinned and welded. I know this was long but hopeful it was informative and will help someone avoid the mistakes I made. odie64

I like Midwest Industries

The parts differences between the PSA PA10 308 LPK and the DPMS LPK when used on a PSA PA10 Gen 2lower: Takedown and pivot pins do not interchange PSA uses a roll pin for the bolt catch, DPMS uses a threaded pin The DPMS bolt catch interferes with the PSA PA10 Gen 2 upper, making it inoperative

Once the remaining PSA proprietary parts are in and fitted it is off to gunsmith for proper pinning and welding of the muzzle brake. Don't need and don't want trouble. My mistakes in parts selection is what has kept it from being properly secured at this time

This will be a build list, cost and lessons learned post about building a PSA PA10 Gen II .308 AR platform rifle. I started the build with the mindset that I could get a good quality upper , lower and barrel combo for a reasonable price, so I could splurge on better quality components and come away with a solid performing rifle. The core of the rifle is the PSA PA10 Gen II upper , lower and 14.7" barrel. I price shopped on the LPK and bought a DPMS LPK for $69.99 figuring I would save $30.00 over the PSA LPK, but we will get to that later. I will list the parts and then note where I could have saved some money is I went with some generic options over some of the components I selected to build this rifle. PARTS LIST: PSA Gen 2 PA10 .308 stripped lower $99.99 PSA AR10 14.7" mid length barrel $99.99 PSA PA10 Gen2 complete upper $149.99 PSA PA10 pivot pin $14.99 PSA PA10 .308 takedown pin $16.95 Midwest Industries 308ss15 DLM rail $209.95 ACE skeleton stock 9.9" $91.99 JP Enterprises silent capture recoil spring assy Gen @ AR-10, LR 308 $139.95 Vltor BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 Med CH $52.15 Troy Industries low profile gas block $35.99 gas tube mid length $13.86 SilencerCo Specwar 762 Muzzle Brake $79.99 DPMS LPK .308 $69.99 Plus 1 Armory Nickle Boron DPMS Spec .308 BCG $179.99 Doublestar A2 Buffer Tube $24.99 MagPul MOE RVG $26.99 MagPul K2 Grip Black $24.99 Vortex Optics Spitfire 3x Prism Scope w/ EBR-556B Reticle $314.10 TOTAL COST $1646.84 MINUS OPTICS AND ACCESSORIES (MagPul grip and RVG) $1280.75 LESSONS LEARNED: PSA has a lot of PSA specific parts, trying to save a buck or thirty has cost me more. Everyone plays by their own rules, All the same yet different A little more research and less impulse would go a long way If they recommend to use only their parts, heed their advice Patience is a virtue ON THE CHEAP( going full budget build): NO need to upgrade to MagPul grip and RVG all LPKs come with an A2 pistol grip Convention buffer and spring saves money Rear stocks are cheap, did not need the ACE skeletonize rear stock Charging handles are cheap .308 muzzles devices are cheap can be had as cheap as $15.00 (had a .308 A2 style flash hider in a parts box) There is a large variety of front rail systems did not need to spend over $200.00 on a free float rail generic rail $24.21 .308 recoil spring $5.99 .308 buffer $5.25 AR 3 prong Flash hider $9.90 PSA lpk $99.99 TOTAL PARTS $145.34 UPGRADE PARTS $630.96 BUILD MINUS OPTICS AND MAGPUL PARTS $1280.75 MINUS UPGRADE PARTS $630.96 TOTAL $649.79 PLUS BUDGET PARTS $145.34 TOTAL BUDGET BUILD $795.13 Keen observers will note the pivot and takedown pins are incorrect. I hope to have it at the range this weekend but I have a bolt catch issue and need to get the Muzzle brake pinned and welded. I know this was long but hopeful it was informative and will help someone avoid the mistakes I made. odie64

Welcome my parents were from the Copper Country (Calumet and Laurium). I spent many a childhood Summer vacation in the U.P. To quote Escanaba in the Moonlight " It is a little slice of paradise South of Heaven and just Nort of the Bridge"

Oh there is another one in there to.......Pun intended

Thanks That edit button must disappear fast. I never saw it. Pretty sure most people will figure out AR 15 and not At 15

Hoping to be able to give a good report. From reading it sounds like the PSA products have had some teething problems. Most things went together well. I am using PSA lower, upper, barrel and a DPMS style BCG. I am thinking they will mate well and function. The mock up seems good and no issues were noted at this time. How can we go back and correct grammatical errors once we post ?

Hey everyone My name is Mike and if you are wondering how I picked my user name....It is a combination of a not too smart animated dog and the year I was born. I have been shooting for 30+ years on and off, sometimes more often off than on. My first centerfire rifle was an Olympic Arms PCR4 (Politically Correct Rifle)a post ban 20" A2 At 15. After years of abuse about shooting a poodle shooter I stepped up the a Springfield Armory M1A Loaded. I have built a couple of ARs, a 9mm and a 300 Blackout. I can blame the Marines, well one particular Marine for my current project. He started a .308 AR build and well it sounded like a good idea and you know what they say about Lays Potato Chips. I am Building a PSA Gen II PA10. I have learned a few things along the way and if all things go well it should be completed this weekend. I will post pics, specs, costs and lessons learned once I am done. I'm feeling encouraged, but there is always that bit of anxiety until you send that first round down range.

Well if you don't want it and want to sell it of a fair price I will buy it

I am currently building a Gen II PSA PA 10 and I followed the guide line about the tang thickness and ordered a high mount DPMS rail form Midwest Industries. It sits a bit high, approximately 1/16" by eye. Although the tang is thicker the proper profile height for the rail is a DPMS low profile.