wwlefty

My first trip to Byron, IL was in Oct. 2012 for a diesel event where I ran a 12.17@110mph. it was cold as hell but those guys really did a great job of putting together a fast track. i wasn't able to go last year but i look forward to putting up an 11 there this year! Race stance the day of the event Street stance video of my run and a few of my friends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t54PMMwOHQ&list=UUP0gjpg9NE0aLTaS1ehhonA&feature=share&index=6

Yeah Winchester produced a whooping 87 model 12's in 1944, I love hearing these kind of stories. This is what libs will never understand, firearms are more than just "guns," they are a rite of passage for young men, a permenant bond between father and son. My dad's first gun was a model 12 20ga given to him by his father as a 12th birthday present. My grandpa also purchased a 16ga at the same time and my dad's love affair with model 12's was born. He still has both shotguns and about 4 other model 12's, two 42's and a model 61. The collection looks pretty impressive when he has them all laid out on the pool table together...

Bump this up...another downstater here; Douglas/Champaign county and I'm looking for a reason to shoot this new 308AR I built...lol

Wow, Zebra, that's a thing of beauty!

My dad and I just picked up this Winchester model 12 for $450 at an auction the other day; my dad still can't believe i got it that cheap. It is a 6 digit serial # 152XXX which puts it manufactured in 1917 I believe. The action is tight and the finish is in great shape for it's age so its either been gone through and re-blued or it has basically been a safe queen. the stampings are very legible which tends to make me think it hasn't been re-blued but either way after transfer fees and a left handed safety i've got a classic shotgun for dove and pheasant season for about $500

thanks Rsquared, I really dig it too, definitely worth the money. another question...if I may. my flash suppressor arrived today and I didn't realize it is completely round with no machined flat spots for a wrench and a crush washer also came with it. when I mocked it up it was about 260-270* off and without the ability to put a wrench on it I don't see how I can get it lined up. I did some searching and there was some mention of pre-crushing the crush washer...is this a good idea or is there a better way out there?

here is a video from 2012 at the local 1/8th mile track. sorry i don't have anything more current but i spent most of last year working on it so not much racing http://youtu.be/yIvp1oBHxn0

thanks....she's pretty fun to drive. I didn't get to run it this year at a 1/4 mile dragstrip but last year I put down a 12.17@110mph so it should have an 11 second pass in it

let me start by saying thanks for everyone's advise, i appretiate the help. i guess i wasn't very clear about things, the LPK i have is for a 308AR so the bolt catch is the correct part. I decided to try to install it with the roll pin that sun devil supplied with the lower but after a "mock up" removal i determined there is no way the pin can be removed without a ton of difficulty even though sun devil did attempt to machine a relief for install/removal of the pin in the receiver. i decided to take dane's advice and use a screw to hold it in place but no luck at the hardware store and my buddy at the local machine shop has been working out of town on a job for the past two weeks so looks like i won't get the issue resolved until after the holidays (she's so close too!) but in the mean time here are some updated photos

i'm in east central IL., just about 20 miles south of Champaign-Urbana which is where the University of IL is located. if i'm not going to drill the hole bigger and tap it to use the set screw that came with the LPK why can't i just use the roll pin that came with the receiver? my main concern is the bolt catch hole is slightly oversized for the roll pin so just using a set screw that will fit the current hole would be the same effect wouldn't it?

thanks for the welcome and the complements on "ironmax" unforgiven, what part of Indiana are you from? i forgot that i had a PSA LPK downstairs so i took a look at it and the bolt catch in there was definitely not an option. i like your idea about drilling/tapping for the screw. anyone have an idea how big to drill the reciever and the thread size/pitch on the bolt catch screw?

i'm into modifying diesel trucks. below is the motor from my 2004 GMC duramax http:// http://

hello everyone, i'm new to this site but not forums in general. i've been lurking on this site since i got the urge to "upgrade" to a 308 platform. i purchased a sun devil mfg. stripped upper/lower set and about 10 months ago as a "just in case" measure and finally got serious about the build late summer this year. i just wanted to start out with a big thank you for the wealth of info this site contains. i feel confident you guys have saved me money and, more importantly, a lot of time and hassle (the buffer info alone has been invaluable.) currently i have the upper assembled (by a competent builder) using a black hole weaponry 24' barrel, troy trx 13.8" battle rail, BCM Vltor charging handle and a CMMG BCG. i'm wondering if i made a mistake in my selection of the sun devil platform as i started the LPK install today using the guide on the site. things went smoothly until i ran into an issue that must be fairly exclusive to the sun devil lower. they actually use a bolt catch roll pin instead of a screw. my concern is that i purchased a CMMG LPK (38CA61A minus the trigger group and grip) to assemble the lower and i'm concerned that the roll pin will be too sloppy inside the bolt catch as it has a larger hole to accomidate the screw. what is my best option, should i go ahead and assemble it "as is"? an AR15 bolt catch would probably have the proper size hole but would it hold up to the larger bolt? any advise about this issue or about another part of the build is appreciated. i included a link to my photobucket page with a pic of the lower http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a438/woller1/heads%20studs%20and%20gaskets/IMG_20131214_165806_714.jpg http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a438/woller1/heads%20studs%20and%20gaskets/IMG_20131213_132716_130.jpg