JohnnyBfromAZ

Hmm, I will have to check into that. I used a McGowen barrel on Howa 1500 project in gunsmithing school, and I remember not being overly impressed. As I recall, it required a lot of lapping to remove toolmarks, but that was years ago. Maybe they've stepped their game up. Either way, $265 is chump change compared to some of the barrel makers I was looking at for the barrel

Oh, I'm still questin' for sure! But priorities change as well as tastes. I would love to know what barrel company he went with for sure.

So, I started this very same quest awhile back. Being extremely vigilant, I was able to source 2- One from a guy on a forum, and another from a now defunct gun store in FL. I won't tell you what I paid for them, but it was borderline obscene. The only reason I bought them was because I realized just how truly rare these rails are and they fit my 13.5" barrel perfectly. I sourced two, because I was going to do 2 uppers; one in 308, and one in 260. After about a year, I realized the only way I was going to get a mid gas, 13.5" precision 260 barrel was to pay big bucks. So, my interest has stalled a bit. I see others have an interest in these rails as well now, so for the right price or trade, I might be convinced to part with my second one which is BNIB and comes with all hardware and 2 barrel nuts- One for Armalite, and one for DPMS. I will say, I am a big fan of this rail, but I am known to be fickle. Convince me to let it go. If you're serious about it, text me at 623.3zero2.804two

Well, that sounds like a benchrest sized group. I'd like to see that

U mad bro?? Haha we can keep talking poop or we can get together and go smack some steel sometime. I DEFINITELY want to see a 12.5" grendel!! Bet that sucker barks something fierce. And yeah, if I can drum up some business for myself that would be cool too! (ie starving gunsmith). BUT, I started this thread to get ahold of damn overpriced stock adapter that I can't find, and which I will probably end up selling it to the next guy for him to make up his own mind about it as well. Hugs and kisses

Because I'm a sucker for shorties with big scopes?

I'm confused, you endorse a stock with a butt cant feature, but then you immediately discount it? I shot precision rifles for the majority of my time in the Marines. The majority of the military's understanding about shooting is misguided, misinformed and predicated on premises that are antiquated if not downright ignorant. During my time in, I also began shooting competitively. Being around Highpower/DCM shooters, Biathletes and NRA smallbore matches has taught me infinitely more about shooting technique then I ever learned in the military. So when you say if it was a big deal, then military rifles would all have the option; I would reply with a hearty, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.......NO. You're putting way too much faith in what the military teaches/understands. That's like an elementary school kid they can skip middle school and high school because they got it already. I spent a good amount of time sourcing premium parts, and then correctly assembling them and coupled with 175gr .308 rounds from Eagle Eye Precision, I was posting 10 shot groups at 100 yds averaging 1.25MOA. Out of the Armalite 13.5" barrel, I was getting on average 2500 f/s with an SD of 10.8. My AB calculator is telling me my rounds will go tran-sonic at 1040 yds and my come-up for 1k is 10 Mils. I absolutely need the magnification, the fitted stock and "all that" because I was engaging steel out to 915 yds (I managed 3/6 hits- wind was challenging up at Bloody Basin). Now, it looks like you've assembled a blaster, which is cool too, but I went the precision route for my 13.5", and so far it is working extremely well! When I go out again, I will try and get some pictures of the Labradar and groups so you guys know I'm not full of it.

Plus, i really want that stock adapter!!

Im an SOT holder, so my name, phone number and address are all public record. Plus, i figured there werent any "member" bots on this forum since the registration process should have weeded them out. Am i right?

I'm actually in the middle of a trade deal for a Geissele Super Precision SOPMOD mount for the SR-25/AR-10, but i do like Larue mounts and believe they have developed the superior QD system for pic rails. That is an interesting stock, but the buttplate looks a bit thin and without cushion. While the 13.5" 308 doesnt recoil excessively in my opinion, it does still let you know it's there. I actually was looking at the SAPR specifically BECAUSE of the the cant feature. Fitting a precision rifle to your body is one of the most important aspects of shooting, and being able to adjust the butt cant of your stock to fit your clavicle area will surprise you- Recoil transfers through your body in a more efficient, linear fashion which aids in tracking your reticle through the shot as well as reducing fatigue from extended shooting periods. So, if you see one let me know!

Let me know what you have. Text me for quicker response- 623 302 0842

.180" 8 round group? That sounds a little optimistic...

Oops, thanks for the heads up!

So, i have a NF 3.5-15x50 scope and i need at least 1.5" tall rings to align with PVS-22 in front of optic. So yes, need more cheekweld

My AR10 SBR build is almost done, but i have to use a crazy high chin weld with my SOPMOD stock to use my NF scope. I was looking around and it looks like the Battleline industries SAPR is just the ticket. Does anyone have one they're not using or willing to sell? Anyone have experience with these? Are they good to go?

I'll take that rail off that rifle if you want to part it out brother!

I've been searching around the internet like crazy with all the google-fu i could muster, and still have only found pictures of this upper, but no mention of nomenclature or mfg date range. Does anyone know what name these uppers go by or if they were ever sold separately by Armalite?

I know these pop every once in a while when someone swpaps out for a JP bolt or parts out an MWS upper. Don't care if it's used. Fastest way is to text me- 623 302 0842 -John

It looks super sick dude. I'm thinking now, in lieu of getting an armalite AR10A upper/lower, of going with either the matrix arms set or the M5. The position of the FA on the Matrix is bothersome to me, but the curved receiver of the M5 just doesn't do it for me. Can't decide the lesser of two evils. Maybe I'll see if i can't scare up a slick armalite flattop upper here pretty soon. Now, i know what the answer is before i ask it, but I'll ask anyway- can i use an Armalite bolt in a DPMS carrier? The Lantac heavy EBCG caught my eye, and i thought about going the tuned heavy mass route, rather than the light mass JP route. It looks like the Lantac has DPMS bolt dimensions though. I've actually read that some people managed to stuff a DPMS bolt in an Armalite carrier and it headspaced okay.

I'm looking for an Armalite AR10 upper w/o forward assist. Must be a flattop. If it has a dust cover, I'll take it as well. I understand these are a little harder to track down, but I feel like I might get lucky posting here! Fastest way to get ahold of me is via text- so PM me for my number. Thanks! -John

That picture is interesting. That appears to be the Armalite 13.5" mid gas barrel that is available on their website. What puzzles me is the fact that it can go on the M5E1 upper, which i thought could only take DPMS barrel extensions, so what gives?

So, as far as i can figure, you can put this rail on either. It came with a 16tpi and a 18tpi barrel nut, and the rail is at the Armalite/DPMS high .210 height. That 13.5" armalite barrel might be my only option as far as i can see, which means now i have to go the AR10 route- which is going to be harder to find the parts i want. Hence my interest in the Genesis upper and lower, but i havent seen anything from them lately.

So, here's a little bit about my current woes: I've been wanting to build an AR10 SBR (possibly Form 2 it into a Post 86 MG) for awhile now. I wanted the rifle to look pretty close to a scaled up version of the MK18, with a no frills, forged upper and lower receiver, a DD 762 lite 12" rail, and maybe like a B5 Bravo or SOPMOD stock. I had some criteria that I wanted to accomplish, which is what is making this build so difficult to complete. 1. Armalite AR10 Style upper and lower. I think the radius of the DPMS style is hideous and rarely match up unless it is a well made set. 2. Slick upper: I have never been an advocate for a forward assist on AR type rifles, and even more so on 7.62 variants. If a 308 round doesn't want to go into battery for some reason, the last thing you should do is force it. 3. Armalite or DPMS height upper. I found my unicorn rail finally, so it needs to match up on height. 4. Needs to take SR/DPMS mags. Obviously; If i wanted hacked up and repurposed mags, I would buy a SCAR 17(JK, no I wouldn't) 5. I need a 13.5" barrel, chambered in 7.62x51, with a mid length gas port. 6. MAYBE a F/A BCG since it might end up as a posty MG. So, the problem is that most of these parts with these characteristics are either Armalite only, or DPMS only, which is infuriating. I found out about Genesis CNC, and it seemed like their Upper and 80% lower would be the ticket, but I can't tell if they're even in business still. I've called and emailed to no response. I could try to source a KAC upper and lower, but they are priced ridiculously, and I'm not that big of a fan. I would just get an Armalite SPR Mod 2 AR10A upper and lower, but Armalite is out of business while they are moving(I've been to their facility here in Phx, and I don't know what the holdup is). Plus, they insist on putting forward assists on their uppers. So, if anybody knows any companies that make the parts I need or can help point me in the right direction, I sure would appreciate it!

Do tell

Yeah I talked to the guy and he wouldn't sell it to me unless he had buyers for the rest of the parts. I figure he's better off parting that rifle out to get his moneys worth, so maybe he'll change his mind.