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Not so good with the math eh? I am 76 going on 77 and have been loading since I was 15 so yes Sir, I have been loading for over 60 years and shooting even longer. Live here is good for me even if it might be a little embarasing for you. Crimping is certainly a choice even if you might not agree with other's that choose not to crimp. Remember when you point a finger at another for bullshitting, there are three fingers pointing back at your. No idea what you are so grumpy about but I will bet there is someone that might be willing to help you get over it. Will be celebrating our 60th wedding anniversary next year and I was loading ammo before that. Whatta Hobby!

Really ! Just so youse knows, the CN stands for closed nose per Sierra my friend and is nothing I added. You might try lightening up on your criticisms a bit until you have read more. That box came in early Winter from Powder Valley so it shouldn't be old at all. I find your " clarifying " to be way off base and a bit childish, just saying. You will also find that I only post information that I personally know to be correct so there should be no clarification needed. Discussions are always enlightening. This is just how a old Marine sees things. Been loading and shooting for way over 60 years. My first issued M-14 was in 1966, so I have been around the .308 for some time. You are free to opine, but that has little to do with fact. Whatta Hobby!

And your link. Whatta Hobby! .30 Cal / 7.62mm 169 Gr. HPBT MatchKing – Sierra Bullets

Picture is worth a thousand words. Has become very popular. Sierra created the 169 for the purpose of having something in .308 that would work out to 1K. Whatta Hobby!

Ok, so with the same 169 gn bullet and load a little better 100 yd 10 rnd group. A bit under 1/2" works for me. While goofing in the shop today I thought it might be interesting to see, side by side from left to right 168 gn smk, 169 gn hpbt-cn and a 175 gn smk. I noticed the bt on the 169 and 175 were similar in length but the 169 was considerably sharper angle. Bullet shapes are noticeably different. Yep, way too much time on my hands. Whatta Hobby!

Had this scope for a few years and sort of forgot about it after I didn't care for it on an M-14. I am going to see how it works on my M-5 in .308. Whatta Hobby!

Temp got up to 20 with just a tiny bit of wind so I had to give it a try. 10 rnds of a long range load into sub 1/2" at 100 yds works. Load is Lapua brass with 43.9 gn of IMR-8208 set off with 210Ms pushing a 169 gn Sierra BT-CN at 2750 fps. Whatta Hobby!

After reading reviews on this scope, I just had to add one to the herd. Mounted this morning on a Savage 110 .308 24" Criterion SS barrel, ORYX chassis. Having so much fun in retirement I could scream. Med MK 4 rings worked for this rifle but I can see higher will be needed for my AR-10 types and M-14 XM21s. New rings have already been ordered. Too durn cold out to head to my range. If this works out the way I expect it will, should save me $ 1-2K per scope over the Night Forces that I have been using. Whatta Hobby!

Having way too much fun. Walked out through the snow and retrieved a target from yesterday. Up close it looks a lot more like 1 moa than the 1/2 I thought I had shot yesterday. Still pleased with the load. Whatta Hobby!

Little chilly this morning at 22 deg. but I got out to for a bit to try these bullets. Fired 30 rnds in Lapua brass with 210M primers loaded with 43.9 gn of IMR-8208 out of my 24" 1-10 X-Caliber barreled Savage .308 with an OSS HX-QD .358 magnum TI suppressor. Average speed 2791 with an SD of 6.1. Stout recoil with a nice sharp report. Sub .5 moa so I think these bullets will work nicely for practice when I don't feel like spending the big bucks for the usual Bergers. Whatta Hobby!

Really, not going to get into a pissing contest. Not worth it. Whatta Hobby!

After 60 years of loading and 100s of thousands of rnds I am not particularly worried. Plenty through AR types without a problem. I will agree, for the generic loader that just crams and jambs crimping might help. For most serious loaders just turning down the expander ball will negate the crimping by presenting a decent neck tension. Never used a bump stock so I can't comment on that but I can imagine dumping ammo might be fun for some. By the way, the OP was asking a very simple question about 7.62x51 and I believe he got the answer needed. Whatta Hobby!

Nope, I completely remove the de-capping unit from the die and hand de-prime. Normally would use a bushing die to the least working of the brass. Then I use a tapered carbide expander to set my neck tension at .003. With the expanding taking place from the top , strongest point, there is less chance of changing the brass headspace than by pulling a darn expander up through the case neck and moving what you have just taken the time to make right with your sizing die. Whatta Hobby!

Those are simply faux kits made by my friend Hawk from USGI parts. The connect to the stock and just appear like the real deal. Best way , in my opinion, to fill the cut out in a USGI M-14 stock. Whatta Hobby!

The OP was concerned that the 2.00 might be too short. My intent was to assure him that indeed 2.00 is just fine to use. I might add that crimping is not necessary for .308. I run between 5 and 10K of reloads annually through my M-14s and FALs for the last 30 years and never use a crimp with bottle neck cartridges. Whatta Hobby!

I use an RCBS X die for my generic loaded .308 brass and trim to 1.99. 2.00 would be fine for any loading. Whatta Hobby!

Kiln arrived via semi at 3pm so I had to take the fork lift down to the lake 1/2 mile away to retrieve it. Wife couldn't wait to start unpacking our new toy. Whatta Hobby!

Waiting on a freight delivery of another 45 amp glass kiln for the studio today. Sooooo, taking advantage of the time to prime a bunch of brass. A few hundred consisting of weighed and neck tension set to .003. About half .308 Lapua priming with 210Ms and the other half MEN berdan .308 using Tula KV-7..62Ns. Whatta Hobby!

Got an extra 500 cnt box on the shelf so it's time to load a hundred .308s and have some fun on the range. Load today is Sierra's suggested accuracy load of 43.9 gn of IMR-8208 XBR. Loading in Lapua cases with 210M primers. Whatta Hobby!

Not really, they are all semi auto M14 type rifles, not USGI M14s.

45 deg with light rain out so it time for some loading. Today's choice is .308 fb bullets over 43.5 gn of Varget in Lapua and MEN berdan brass which I use interchangeably for accuracy loadings. Brass has been sized with an RCBS sb xdie with the internal primer punch and expander ball removed, wet tumbled with ss pins and dawn, dried in Frankford Arsenal case dryer, trimmed with Giraud trimmer, neck tension set to .002 with Sinclair carbide tapered mandrel. Berdan primed with Tula primers and boxer primed with 210Ms. Brass prep and priming finished up earlier. Waiting for the RCBS Matchmaster to warm up so it can be calibrated. Whatta Hobby!

Finished up segregating into .1 gn bags today. Majority of the brass is within .5 gn centered at 94. gn Whatta Hobby!

Finished up the last of them a few minutes ago and weight sorted to 1 gn for now. Weight on Starline was all between 93 and 95 so pretty good to start. Whatta Hobby!

Opened a new 1K bag of Starline .223 brass. Initial prep includes de-burring and unitizing the flash holes, run a tapered carbide neck mandrel for a .003 tension, trim and mouth prep with a Giraud trimmer, weight sort and bag for 1 gn or closer segregation. Whatta Hobby!

Shot this 3 - 9 today in the 1/4" 10 dot 100 yd challenge. Rifle is a Savage 110 .223 with NF scope. Ammo is handloaded Berger 55 gn varminter over 20 gn of IMR-4198 in starline brass set of with 205m primers. Set a .003 neck tension and a 2.26 COAL. Whatta Hobby!