WonderMonkey Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I'm ex military and am fond of the AR body style. I know I could get a fine rifle and scope for cheaper than an AR body style but I want one. Simple as that. However I'd like to price out a good rifle for a fair price and then see if I can talk myself into it financially.I like the looks of the Remington R-25 as well as the one in the banner up there... (look up!). Obviously looks don't bring down game but if I can get what I want AND have it look nifty then why not? Edit: I didn't notice that the banners 'up there' rotated. There is an image of one in desert color... tan-ish.So.... a .308 in the AR body style, can I get one to my door for $1000? If I have to replace a part or two over a few years I'm willing to do that but I have to start with something that is "good enough". I'll pick out a scope after get the rifle unless there is a package deal that I can't pass up.Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew.45 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I bought The DPMS Oracle for $1,000. It has a chrome lined barrel and a flat top rail, forward assist and a dust cover (also came with 2-30 round mags). I am very happy with it. It is very reliable and accurate. I am taking it on a hog hunt in November. I also own the DPMS .308lr with a 24" stainless bull barrel I am very happy with it also. Good luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr3db3ar Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I also have the Oracle, it's chrome moly not chrome lined.I like it a lot for a short barreled rifle. Mine shoots right around MOA without being free floated and just run of the mil reloads. I'm currently shooting 175 SMK and 150 SP to same point of aim @ 100 and less than a minute apart @ 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMonkey Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 How much accuracy do you feel you lose with the short barrel (18"?) Oracle versus the 24" barrel?Also, thanks for the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 How far do you plan on shooting?I ask because an 18" target barrel should out shoot a longer barrel of the same diameter, within 500 yards. Now if you plan to shoot 1000 yards you'll want the extra fps of the 24"er.We discussed this same topic here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMonkey Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Thanks for the link, I'll read that for sure. I would think that 500 yards would do it. Right now I hunt in hilly country with some fields. Obviously I want the most versatile gun I can get without being too generic. The nice thing about the short barrel is carrying it through the brush... not as much snagging.Again thanks for the replies, and I'll read that link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr3db3ar Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'll have to shoot for some groups @ 400 and post them up but from the bench on biopd, cross armed rear support I'm shooting around 6" or less groups @ 400 out of my Oracle using both 175 SMK and 150 BTSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMonkey Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 The link was very interesting. The biggest thing I took away from it was that if the powder finished burning (or enough anyway) before leaving the barrel the round could actually slow down. Makes perfect sense but I had just never considered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyking Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'm currently in the Marine corps and are also looking into a hunting rifle in AR platform. What are your guys opinion on the Bushmaster .308 ORC or the BUSHMASTER MOE 308 Mid-Length? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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