I've enjoyed lots of the posts I've been reading and the respect and apparent lack of comprehension skills some folks have when they ask a question, then get straight stooped when you "esplain" it five different ways and they still don't get it I'll try not to fall into THAT category. ...New to the forum or wouldn't be here. Been burning powder since '63. Old Recondo dude, lots of AKs and other .308s, but have never owned a .308 AR. Thought about the whole .308 battle rifle semi platform since I've shot them all in some interesting places. But here in the US, I figure after buying one about the only thing I'll need will probably be components if I get back into reloading. It would be interesting to build one and maybe in the future it could happen. But for right now I'm just looking to buy one. Started buying PMAGS since that seems to be "standard" ( I'll try to refrain from using THAT word often). I looked at everything up to $2500. Due to a drunk driver, I will have money. That being said, even as a gun dealer I never bought a firearm over $800. Now I know I'll be spending more, but here's where I went. Like the idea of piston systems, but even tho somewhat "cleaner" they appear more finicky. Adams and POF were what I saw that seemed reliable (SIG fans don't stroke out). DPMS Oracle, Bushmaster XM, Windham Weaponry, Springfield Armory and Diamondback....Hmmm DPMS and Bushmaster got screwed by the holding company; Springfield doesn't have a long enough track record yet, DB seems ok by quite a few here on the site; haven't found a lot here on Windham yet. The Oracle seemed like the bulletproof pick even tho the company went down since so much of the industry goes off their specs. Liked what I saw from the long interview from POF owner, but once again, poop for that kind of money I could buy a used .308 and a ton of ammo...Just looking for more info and insight. I REALLY liked the DB .308 pistol, but Missouri's 300-400 yard shots still are in my head. I'm in Warner Robins, GA now and middle to southern Ga I can still see 300-700 yard shots so I think I'm tied to at least a 16" pipe. Give me some thoughts folks, I'm not a sensitive dude...98Z5V and you other "bringers of rain" gimme an intel dump, all you guys, the more the merrier. I know some of the issues of PSA, I also know the owners are trying to get more guns into Americans hands, although I agree they shouldn't be using us a beta-testers too, so let's not chew that poop sandwich right now. I will try to respond as soon as I can, but I work for the VA so you know I"m slo...make that meticulous...