Sierra .308 169 gn HPBT.CN

[NF1E]

Got an extra 500 cnt box on the shelf so it's time to load a hundred .308s and have some fun on the range. Load today is Sierra's suggested accuracy load of 43.9 gn of IMR-8208 XBR. Loading in Lapua cases with 210M primers. Whatta Hobby!

 

[NF1E]

Little chilly this morning at 22 deg. but I got out to for a bit to try these bullets. Fired 30 rnds in Lapua brass with 210M primers loaded with 43.9 gn of IMR-8208 out of my 24" 1-10 X-Caliber barreled Savage .308 with an OSS HX-QD .358 magnum TI suppressor. Average speed 2791 with an SD of 6.1. Stout recoil with a nice sharp report. Sub .5 moa so I think these bullets will work nicely for practice when I don't feel like spending the big bucks for the usual Bergers. Whatta Hobby!

[NF1E]

Having way too much fun. Walked out through the snow and retrieved a target from yesterday. Up close it looks a lot more like 1 moa than the 1/2 I thought I had shot yesterday. Still pleased with the load. Whatta Hobby!

 

 

 

[NF1E]

Ok, so with the same 169 gn bullet and load a little better 100 yd 10 rnd group. A bit under 1/2" works for me. While goofing in the shop today I thought it might be interesting to see, side by side from left to right 168 gn smk, 169 gn hpbt-cn and a 175 gn smk. I noticed the bt on the 169 and 175 were similar in length but the 169 was considerably sharper angle. Bullet shapes are noticeably different. Yep, way too much time on my hands. Whatta Hobby!

 

 

 

[98Z5V]

Can you please directly link this 169gr Sierra projectile that you're talking about, from Sierra's website?  I searched the first time that you mentioned it a few days ago, and they only make one 169gr .308 projectile - and it doesn't match the description you're giving it.

Thanks in advance.

[NF1E]

Picture is worth a thousand words. Has become very popular. Sierra created the 169 for the purpose of having something in .308 that would work out to 1K.  Whatta Hobby!

 

 

 

[NF1E]

And your link. Whatta Hobby!

 

.30 Cal / 7.62mm 169 Gr. HPBT MatchKing – Sierra Bullets

 

[98Z5V]

Just so you know - the "CN" that you're adding on to the end has nothing to do with the projectile designation, whatsoever.  It just means that's the part number for a "carton" - 500 rounds in one box.

For most other manufacturers, a "C" or a "CN" means it's a cannalured projectile - which this is definitely not.

Sierra's part number for this projectile is 2269.  Their part number for the 500 rd box is now 2269C.

Your box that you show, with 2269-CN just means you have a really, really old box of this stuff.

Just clarifying.  You know - details matter.

[NF1E]

Really !  Just so youse knows, the CN stands for closed nose per Sierra my friend and is nothing I added. You might try lightening up on your criticisms a bit until you have read more. That box came in early Winter from Powder Valley so it shouldn't be old at all.

I find your " clarifying " to be way off base and a bit childish, just saying.

You will also find that I only post information that I personally know to be correct so there should be no clarification needed. Discussions are always enlightening.

This is just how a old Marine sees things. Been loading and shooting for way over 60 years. My first issued M-14 was in 1966, so I have been around the .308 for some time.

 

You are free to opine, but that has little to do with fact.

 

Whatta Hobby!

 

 

 

[98Z5V]

On 1/20/2025 at 2:15 AM, NF1E said:

Really !  Just so youse knows, the CN stands for closed nose per Sierra my friend and is nothing I added. You might try lightening up on your criticisms a bit until you have read more. That box came in early Winter from Powder Valley so it shouldn't be old at all.

I find your " clarifying " to be way off base and a bit childish, just saying.

You will also find that I only post information that I personally know to be correct so there should be no clarification needed. Discussions are always enlightening.

This is just how a old Marine sees things. Been loading and shooting for way over 60 years. My first issued M-14 was in 1966, so I have been around the .308 for some time.

 

You are free to opine, but that has little to do with fact.

 

Whatta Hobby!

 

 

 

You're 70, but you been loading for 60 years?  Not buying it.  Also, don't ever tell anyone here loading gas guns to go for neck tension, and not crimp their rounds.  That's more fukced up than a football bat, and shows that you do not know what you're talking about.

I won't do it in a PM, like you tried.  Do it live, right here.  You might load for small groups at 100 yards, but that doesn't mean shiit in the real world.  The distances are longer now, the technology is better now, and people are doing more than shooting small groups at 100 yards. 

But, you do you.  Just don't give anymore bullshiit reloading advice here. 

Have a great day.

[98Z5V]

1 hour ago, 98Z5V said:

Just so youse knows, the CN stands for closed nose per Sierra my friend and is nothing I added.

Point out, and quote, where Sierra states that.  I'll wait...  

[NF1E]

6 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

You're 70, but you been loading for 60 years?  Not buying it.  Also, don't ever tell anyone here loading gas guns to go for neck tension, and not crimp their rounds.  That's more fukced up than a football bat, and shows that you do not know what you're talking about.

I won't do it in a PM, like you tried.  Do it live, right here.  You might load for small groups at 100 yards, but that doesn't mean shiit in the real world.  The distances are longer now, the technology is better now, and people are doing more than shooting small groups at 100 yards. 

But, you do you.  Just don't give anymore bullshiit reloading advice here. 

Have a great day.

Not so good with the math eh?  I am 76 going on 77 and have been loading since I was 15 so yes Sir, I have been loading for over 60 years and shooting even longer.  Live here is good for me even if it might be a little embarasing for you.

Crimping is certainly a choice even if you  might not agree with other's that choose not to crimp.

Remember when you point a finger at another for bullshitting, there are three fingers pointing back at your.

No idea what you are so grumpy about but I will bet there is someone that might be willing to help you get over it. 

Will be celebrating our 60th wedding anniversary next year and I was loading ammo before that.

Whatta Hobby!