Lets talk about range, and glass.

[SPBCTS]

A couple of questions, for the experts here.

AR-10TBNF...20 inch stainless heavy barrel 1-10 twist. New, never screwed around with or hacked upon, two stage nat'l match trigger.

With Federal GMM 168grn or 175 SMK ammo, (or the equivalent) what can a guy expect for maximum repeatable effective range by an experienced shooter with 54 year old eyes...shooting bench rest with a bipod?

AND

Said person tends to like a little more magnification, wants a MIL/MIL scope with iluminated Mil type reticle

AND

If said person was looking to spend around $700 on glass and was willing to spend $200ish on a mount, what scope would you look for?

This is the mount I am focused on...at the moment..

http://shop.aadmount.com/AADMOUNT-30mm-AADMOUNT30GII.htm

My partner in this rifle is my son. He is 28. He has had laser surgery on his eyes and has beyond perfect vision...how badly is he going to whoop my behind when we are comparing targets...I already know I shouldn't bet him beers after our range day is done and we are home picking on each other, but will I have to cheat to avoid being embarrassed? :)  <laughs>

I look forward to, and thank you for your opinions.

[planeflyer21]

Look for the contact info I posted for Camera Land in the glass section.

A couple of us here have gotten the Vortex PST 4-16x50 FFP for $750 from them.  $753 shipped and insured.

Jon

[BLKSHEEP]

^^^ That's a damn good deal on a very nice scope. I have the Weaver Tactical 3x15x50 that I can highly recommend http://swfa.com/Weaver-3-15x50-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P49448.aspx I'm not familiar with that mount but it looks top notch, other mfg's to check out would be http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/browse/category/opticmounts/scopemounts/

http://www.gggaz.com/scope-mounts-and-accessories/integral-ring-bases.html

http://www.bobroengineering.com/browse/category/scopemounts/

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-20-moa-psr-scope-mount-qd

If you want to go all out > http://www.gdiengineering.com/store/products.html

http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/scope-rings-mount-sets/index.htm?k=&t=P&avs%7cStyle_1=Quick+Detach

[Tripledeuce]

Please rember that any optic focused for your eyes, will  NOT be focused for your son;s eyes.

  Respecftully

  Terry

[BLKSHEEP]

Please rember that any optic focused for your eyes, will  NOT be focused for your son;s eyes.

  Respecftully

  Terry

Very good point <thumbsup> and as far as how much range you can get is all up to the shooter, the equipment that you have or looking to purchase will take you as far as your abilities will let it.

[planeflyer21]

^^^ That's a damn good deal on a very nice scope. I have the Weaver Tactical 3x15x50 that I can highly recommend http://swfa.com/Weaver-3-15x50-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P49448.aspx I'm not familiar with that mount but it looks top notch, other mfg's to check out would be http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/browse/category/opticmounts/scopemounts/

http://www.gggaz.com/scope-mounts-and-accessories/integral-ring-bases.html

http://www.bobroengineering.com/browse/category/scopemounts/

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-20-moa-psr-scope-mount-qd

If you want to go all out > http://www.gdiengineering.com/store/products.html

http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/scope-rings-mount-sets/index.htm?k=&t=P&avs%7cStyle_1=Quick+Detach

I happened to catch the GG&G extended single-piece base/rings QD mount on clearance at MidwayUSA.  Others may be a bit better but not at their clearance price!

It is now $60 over what it cost me:  http://www.midwayusa.com/product/718204/gg-and-g-flt-accucam-quick-detach-extra-extended-low-profile-scope-mount-picatinny-style-with-integral-30mm-rings-ar-15-flat-top-matte

Jon

[blue109]

Botach has been giving away gg&g stuff...maybe they will get a deal going on those mounts if I wait long enough! Also have a weaver tactical and I like it alot. Its all the scope I need and then some.

[SPBCTS]

Please rember that any optic focused for your eyes, will  NOT be focused for your son;s eyes.

  Respecftully

  Terry

Understood. The rifle lives with him, but if I am stepping up with the cash, then he is going to have to find a way to live with what I have set up for me. I like the PST and the Weaver.

thanks for the feedback, guys.