Battle Arms Dev

Guys, please give me your honest opinion. As you know, FDE comes in several shades, Vltor, Tangodown, and Magpul are not all the same. There's a bad review on Brownells where the customer complained that the color didn't match up (he has Magpul furniture), it's impossible to match everyone's FDE. Does our FDE match up pretty well with Tangodown, DD and Vltor's FDE? The FDE selector is the 4th item down http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-amp-action-parts/safety-parts/safeties/ar-15-m16-ambidextrous-safety-selector-prod41292.aspx

The MAD Hook Up won't be available again for couple of months, we're getting some Tangodown PR4 to take its place till then :) For bundles that don't exist on our site, you can email me for a code ;)

Thanks guys, we can't take credit for it, Brownell's did it, we didn't know about it till we saw it ourselves ;D I'd like to expand on it, maybe you guys can help me... Unconditional warranty, unrelenting standards, unmatched quality, all American Or something along those lines <thumbsup>

The 308 version is up now, it's an option under the Raptor (stand alone) and Raptor + BAD-ASS bundle :)

Remington 700 is a classic system, I don't shoot mine a lot but just like 1911 and Browning High Power, which I also don't shoot much, are always good to have:)

We'll be working on Remington 700 long action next. As to the Winchester platform, no decision has been made yet :)

I'm not familiar with the FN SPR, is that close to the Remington 700? :)

We just got them yesterday, will update the site today :D

We will have the 308 version in a week or two ;)

Raptors are back in stock :)

Say, mrraley, the mag well looks different ;)

Hi Guys, what do 0% AR10 forgings usually go for? TIA :)

We've been working on our LPK for a while, we'll bring out couple of pieces of the kit this year :)

Guys, please email me for a code ;)

Haha :cookoo: :D ;D

Thanks to you guys are 308ar.com! We had a few reviews, all positive, before the members here really got it going, we could not have done it without you. Thank you guys, and thank you Drew! ;D

Awesome ;D

lol ;D We had been out of the 45 degree BAD-ASS-STs for months, I'm not sure if dealers have any left either since they've been out of stock for so long. You should get the 50 degree selectors, they don't have issues with TTUs, and should fix the AR Gold ones as well :)

Thank you, I just hope whatever ban they're trying to pass won't affect the industry :P

We're answerable to our customers, not to investors and board members (don't have any). Sometimes we don't start a new project because there may not be enough market to support the R&D cost, but by not doing it to begin with, we never left the customer holding the bag. Once the product is in the market, we owe it to the end users to support it and refine it the best we can, this is the reason for multiple refinement programs of the selector, every one of the previous versions leads to the one we have today which incorporates the feedback and real world use experience in the last couple of years. To be clear, we don't use our customers as beta testers. A control device that sees as much use, if not more use, than the trigger, it's subject to various user preferences and opinions. We take in every comment and feedback given us, and arrive at something that almost everyone can be happy with. There are some suggestions we can't implement, such as reversing the SAFE and FIRE position like the original AR, where SAFE is at 12 o'clock, and SEMI is at 9 o'clock (looking at the receiver from its left side). And there was the suggestion to create a lever that's somewhere between the short and standard lever length. The difference between a mid-length lever that's shorter than standard, but longer than short, didn't make a lot of sense to us, but it will muddy up the lever choices, while offering debatable benefits.

Thank you guys for your kind words! I'm humbled by the praises, to me, we're doing what we as a manufacturer and developer should do. There was a little debate about whether to go to 50 degree to fix a problem that affected a tiny segment of the market. The question came to to this, can we say we've done the best we can, if we don't fix a known problem that some companies would deem acceptable to ignore? We need to be honest with ourselves. Leaving this issue unresolved was an option, but a better option would be to fix it. The discussion to go to a 50 degree took place when we found out about the TTU compatibility issues back in 2011. The main driving force was actually not the TTU problems, but something else. The tiny amount of play / wobble when the detent is engaged in the detent holes is about 5 degrees or so. This is unavoidable, for the detent holes must be bigger than the detent, or the detent can't seat inside the holes. With a 90 degree selector, a little play isn't a big deal, but with a 45 degree, 10 degree of movement inside a 45 degree arc can be confusing. And so this was the first reason to go to a 50 degree arch, so the 5 degree or so movement in SAFE and FIRE position is less pronounced. The reduction of the center's flat area diameter from 0.330 to 0.327 is to further address after market trigger compatibility issues. In the original design, the diameter was even greater, as that was the milspec. Milspec doesn't take into account the vast array of aftermarket triggers available, and to the user's detriment, some of them vary a great deal from factory specs. Over the years we gradually brought down the diameter, now it's 0.327. This should address the AR Gold trigger's problem. But to be fair, not all AR Gold, and for that matter, not all TTUs experience the kind of issues the latest revisions aim to fix, I can only attribute this random occurrences with these triggers to variables such as receivers dimensions, and the variances within the triggers themselves. We can't compel anyone to make their products more compatible with out of spec components, so we do what we can with ours. This was first started with Geissele Automatics. In a phone conversation with Bill back in 2010, I asked him why some DMR users had to modify their selectors to work with the DMR. The short answer is they wouldn't need to do that if their receivers were in spec, but to make a selector more tolerant of out of spec receivers, he gave us the value of the center flat width he'd like to see. In PIP1 (product improvement program) we increased the width of the center flat section as much as possible based on that advise. To this date, every one of the selectors made since August of 2010 had that feature built in, whether a user is aware of it or not. If you ever wonder why DMR users never mention having to modify our selectors to work, well, now you know ;)

Hi Dennis :) Alpha mags will have lots of wobble. Accurate Mags and AI mags are the only ones we use. Re: inletting, I'd suggest that you let a competent gunsmith that's done plenty of such work perform the task, or you can buy an HS Precision, or McMillan stock that's already inletted :)

The second generation of our short throw selector has these changes: 1. Throw arc changed from 45 degree to 50 degree to address a known issue with Wilson TTU triggers 2. Center section (where the flat is) diameter decreased to accommodate triggers with tall rear tang, and some NB coated triggers Can you guys tell which is which? ;) The 5 degree increase in throw is almost imperceptible.

Hehe, last year we had lots of SD-3G. This year we became a Geissele distributor and have more of everything. We rarely run specials, though we don't have a special on the bundle, the code used last year is still good this year ;)

Information about the gen 2 BAD-ASS-ST and BAD-CASS-ST has been posted here and there, so here's the complete and long version. For the last couple of years, we had dealt with few compatibility issues with the 45 degree, short throw selector. Mainly, it has problems with Wilson’s excellent TTU family of triggers. The problem isn’t universal on all TTU triggers, but enough for us to look for a solution. Among many aftermarket triggers, the TTUs are the only ones we’re aware of that exhibit incompatibility issues, it is a very small percentage. The incompatibility with TTUs is one of the reasons behind BAD-ASS-ST’s revision. But before reports of TTU’s incompatibility, we had already begun to study the 50 degree throw. The other reason is one that started our move to 50 degree: When the detent is engaged in the selector’s detent holes, there’s a minor play, you can rotate the lever back and forth for a few degrees. This play is unavoidable, for the detent to seat in the detent holes, the holes must be slightly larger than the detent itself. On a 90 degree, standard throw selector, this movement is insignificant. On a 45 degree selector, 2 to 3 degree of movement between SAFE and FIRE is far more noticeable. From March of 2012, the redesigned detent groove depth, shoulder, and smaller detent holes on all the production selector centers have done a great job minimizing the play in the detent holes. The 5 degree increase helps make the play less noticeable. The 50 degree short throw selector will still have the “lawyer pin”, as even at 50 degree, the pointer groove doesn’t point to the word FIRE, the letter F, or the pictogram. Production units starting from December of 2012 will also feature a slightly smaller diameter in the center flat section to increase compatibility with aftermarket triggers. The 50 degree short throw selector will first make its appearance in the BAD-ASS-ST format (non-dovetailed). The BAD-CASS-ST (dovetailed) will be produced in 50 degree throw as soon as existing inventory of 45 degree units are exhausted. Lastly, the newest member of the short throw family is the short throw M16, 0-50-180 selector, scheduled to debut early next year. Stay tuned ;D