I had been intrigued by the XD pistols and their reputation, not long after they were first marketed by SA, but didn't want to take the plunge without speaking to someone in person that had one. A customer came into the store wearing one, which was all scratched up and beat to hell. After inquring, he said he'd been out rock climbing and gone up a 200' incline (too steep to walk, so they used rope to ascend). He got to the top, removed his harness and the belt snagged the XD which pulled out of the crap holster he had, then skittered, fell, and tumbled down the 200' they had just climbed. Went down, picked it up, BLAMBLAMBLAM!! Reholstered, reclimbed, went on their way. My Kimber never would've done that. Jon