StainTrain

I agree with this. Check your kit. My initial post worked under the assumption you had thoroughly checked your hardware before posting.

Try some 168gr. I know people wax poetically on the interwebs about its transsonic stability or lack thereof, but it still performs quite well in 10, 11.25 and 12 twist barrels.

You must really like your brother-in-law to compromise yourself in this manner.

As far has GMM 175gr is concerned I can't tell much of a difference if any. I will have to pilfer through an old data book to see, but I can't remember the difference being a remarkable event. It has been about 8 months since I shot either of those rounds.

It sounds like you are working with good equipment. Try different ammo from different manufactures in different weights (match ammo that is) and see if there is any change. I tend to agree that the POI shift may be you at the moment (not trying to insult you).

This could be a lot of things. If you keep a data book, you should always track your cold bore shift. Your knowledge of the cold bore shift is what makes it an accurate shot, not the most accurate. You can either drive the rifle to hit where you want it to or you can't, which is why I suggest precision rifle courses for newer precision shooters. I will say that an 1.5 inches is a little excessive (from my experience) It may be a combination of cold bore and cold shooter. Your coming off the rifle from your first shot then back on for your follow up. It may be that you strip your barrel of its bearing surface each time you clean it from the range. It could be that your barrel is more budget conscience for the type of accuracy/performance you are expecting from it. There are a lot of things at play....including your application of the fundamentals. I see shooters blame their equipment when they should be blaming themselves and other times shootings saying they pulled the 5th shot, which opened up their group, when the rifle (barrel) they purchased isn't capable of pulling off sub-sub-MOA. I don't expect my Mustang to keep up with a McLaren just because I properly apply the fundamentals of driving. Know your limitations....know the limitation of your equipment. Now to your question. I don't wait for a barrel to cool down between shots or any of that jazz. I shoot within time limits provided at the number of targets assigned to me. How your barrel manages heat can and will cause some adjustment/shift in POI...yes heat will affect accuracy. Now a couple of questions: Who is the manufacturer of this barrel? What is the weight/Profile of this barrel? What type of ammo where you pushing down the pipe? What type of support are you using to stabilize the rifle? Do you aggressively clean the rifle after each range session? Stain

Tequila and Lube were covered in the prep.....I am trying to take my own advice and keep it PG, but it always turns XXX.....always.

Although I am not a breacher, I am sure with enough prep, coaxing and force.....entry can be made.

Easy.....this is PG site....not some Kama Sutra review.

Doubtful. Just liberals being liberal. Anticipating confrontations with subjects wearing both hard and soft armor, is something professional LEOs train for or at least should.

Sorry. I fixed it.

Just as the title says. Sign the petition and contact your Representatives. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-hr-5344-banning-responsible-law-abiding-citizens-owning-body-armor/GNrBKFrF

I think you will enjoy it. I run a Mark 6 and it is a robust piece. I like the ADM mount as well, but have you looked at the bobro and GDI? If you don't need the QD, the Badger is solid.

I hope they work out well for you.

^^^^^ Lots of truth in there. Survivalshop did a great job of explaining the rationale behind fixed power scopes and the fact that it may no longer hold the same weight that it did 10 years ago. There are no shortages of SWFA SS 10X and Bushness Elite 10X on ranges. They both are good scopes for the money and have a great reputation. Interjecting my personal opinion, I think the SS has the edge over the Bushnell. Which has me agreeing with Suvivalshop once again. Quality gear will pay for itself over time. I never try to spend another man's dollar by pretending I know what he can afford, I am not alone in this because most of the senior members on here will ask a person's price range before slinging out the name of very expensive European optics. I am very fortunate and blessed to work with some very expensive optics and weapons through my work, but I am also a hunter, sportsman and recreational shooter trying to raise a rather large family, therefore in my personal collection I have varying optics ranging from the Leupold to Nikon to Vortex to Primary Arms (I am still loving the hell out of the 1-6X), some SFP, some FFP, some with Parallax adjustment some without some purchased used, some new.....you get my drift. I don't own any fixed power scopes (for reasons such as planeflyer21 pointed out) nor am I looking to purchase one in the near future....again..personal preference.

They bought them from Cabelas. They look faded because some guy keeps buying camo and upgrading it for something else a few weeks later.....it was said that the same guy has been doing to same thing with scopes for years....... <lmao> <laughs>

Search for the scope features you want such as reticle, turrets, power, exit pupil, eye relief, elevation and windage adjustments (MOA vs MIL) internal adjustment, etc and the objective size will take care of itself. There have been many bad guys laid to rest with simple 3.5-10X40 scopes. The MK 8 1.1-8 X24 is an exceptional piece and it is a small objective size. USO and Nightforce also have modest objective sizes. Please remember that within the past decade optics technology has increased significantly and the old parameters for performance, while relevant, don't always correlate to what dictates a highly performing scope today. Since you are very interested in shooting, take a precision rifle/hunting course. Guys show up with some great gear from bargain basement to very high end and the one thing the guys have in common is that are eager to tell you about their gear. Ask to look through their scopes, ask to shoot a couple of rounds. See how is does with the sun beating down or shining into the lenses. See how critical the eye relief is. etc. I do this all the time and believe I make better purchases because of it.

Unless your objectives have changed then I think the scope you have will serve you well for years to come.

Again, it all comes down to how you are going to use the rifle, your budget, and to a degree, your ability to get the most our of your scope. Let's say you plan to shoot, I don't know, say 800 meters....and all you were going to do was get prone or shoot off a bench, then you can do that with a less expensive scope....especially if you are going to be on a known distance range. If you are going to hunt, compete or employ your rifle in a rough duty scenario with varying unknown distances and target sizes, then you need to invest in the appropriately priced equipment. Along with that is get with someone to mentor you and/or take a class so you are getting the most out of your equipment. I feel for all the children who don't have bikes, school clothes, and decent beds, because their dad bought a S&B to shoot pasties at the local 100 yard range. Don't overbuy, don't under buy, buy what the mission dictates.

Sad that he would treat a quality screwdriver that poorly.

Consider the FFP. 24X is a lot of power. Mirage can play havoc with that high of power without the ability to back it out. With an FFP, you will be surprised how many times you will look at the mag knob and see that you adjusted it back. That being said, an FFP isn't necessary for everyone.

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<laughs> Thanks, bro. I give people too much credit.

Nah, just some dude that has a .50cal and a ballistic calculator that thinks shooting steel the size of a car door at 1000 yards is precision work.

Gunsite has been around a while and they do a nice job, but you pay for it....which is not a bad thing. There are a lot of good civilian courses out there that are taught by very competent, safe, and legitimate people that will make you a better gun fighter. It sounds like you are doing your research, but the internet will only take you so far. Call the company up, tell them what you are looking to get out of their course and ask for referrals. Check them out. If they are worth their salt, they will have no problem with this type of request. Safety is paramount. I don't care how badass a guy's pedigree is, if he/she can't demonstrate safe weapons handling skills. Beware of anyone who starts saying that they train black op tier one ninjas and crap like that and that it is so secret they can't even mention the group's name.......The ones who do, don't make a big deal about it.