Bad Wolf

You are correct they were approx 10K a piece. What baffles me is why would KAC sell a gun that is only capable of 1/5-2 MOA? My department has never been smooth with its spending. I'm hoping and pretty sure my new AR10 will be a sub MOA gun, that way I can go rub it in their faces, lol.

Thanks, that's what I already knew. I thought there was something else.

Please elaborate on the difference between "A" and "B" rifles other than the magazines, please.

I'd rather have a sandwich.

True but they are not using hand loads. I'm not sure the brand but I know its some factory load that they could get the best deal on.

For the price it could have said anything. :banana:

I found the rings are only 3 bucks each but with 10 bucks shipping from most places.

For being the third largest Sheriff's Office in the nation we just started our team and it was like open season on buying crap. Most of it came from DHS grants. So they had nothing to start with. At least the KAC can be used as a battle rifle and not a complete loss. As most LEO can prob tell you most decisions made by command don't make since in larger departments. I miss my small department team. I suggested and offered to do the barrel change, and again I was told to shut up. I must make too much sense being that I am always being told to shut up.

We had decided to go with LaRue but at the time they were shipping the OBR with a throw down barrel and an IOU for the match barrel. It was at the time that they had started to make the barrels in house. I'm right down the road from LaRue. We couldn't wait for the new barrels do they ordered KAC. Or so this is what I am told. What I am telling you is only what I was told.

Guys I agree with everyone who has made a statement about them buying the wrong gun. After what I have told them and what yall have said I found out a few minutes ago they are getting new bolt guns. not sure what yet. I'd like to see the FN myself, but I still love my 700.

"NOW WRT the ACC series of guns - we have NOT determined yet what the ES of commercial guns shall be. The intent is to hold the guns to at least a 1.5-2MOA standard, depending upon what the first 300-500 of those guns performs. These guns are not designed to be Match rifles but true 7.62 Battle Rifles. The first few guns are shooting exceptionally well, however we do not expect sub-moa performance over the larger production runs." -Kevin from KAC. I guess this says it.

As an LEO too, my personal belief, along with most the guys here in Texas, is the only gun control measure that should exist is no felons or the mentally ill ( I mean seriously mental illness, not insomnia if yall read about that) allowed to own guns. I am not a fan of open carry, only because I know most people do not train weapon retention. I would like to see universal conceal carry (no permit).

I had no say in what was ordered. Sorry if I mislead. I have have no been able to to shoot these guns yet, out with ankle surgery. These guys have very little experience with these and if there is any correction to be done to the guns it will have to be done by KAC. I am just trying to trouble shoot from the house to help out. When I was called for help I told them to send the guns back and get bolt guns.

Crap I just saw that I fat fingered it. They are SR-25 E2 ACC with a few minor upgrades complete with can, Night Force optics and NV. It using 168gr Match Kings.

I completely agree. I was told pretty much to shut up when I suggest a custom build.

Hey guys, new here from the Houston area. Here's the Armalite I picked up on a steal. I finally put it together today, I didn't have a vise jaw for a AR10 so I had to wait a few days. Now waiting on the optics and mount.

Approx 1000-1500 rounds as of now. (I keep the brass for my own stuff so I'm sitting on a nice little load of brass)

Recently my departments SWAT team ordered 4 KAC SR-15 Carbines. The didn't want the IOU a barrel from La Rue wait time. These were purchased as sniper rifles and I know the average sniper engagement for police is 77 yards. These 16" chrome lined barrels are grouping 1.5-2" at 100 yards. To me these carbine are more battle rifles than sniper rifles. These rifles are shot suppressed but have no adjustable gas block. My theory, untested, is the group might close up with some gas tuning. Anyone have experience with these rifle or a thought as to why the grouping is so poor. These rifles have been shoot by multiple people with the same results and tested against Rem. 700 (sub-moa groups).

I corrected the issue by backing the die out and tightening down the stem down. Funny how I never had this problem until I cleaned the die. But I did install it at the same dept after the cleaning and that when the problem started. I still plan to get the locking rings.

Looks dang nice. I like those Enhanced Uppers, just don't care for the price.

This die has only loaded about 8k rounds. Ill get the lock ring and if that doesn't fix it I'll contact Lee for a replacement.

How do yall go about ordering gloves off line. I can never find a pair to fit right unless I can try them on. Every brand fits different. I have large wide/thick palms and fingers not long enough to be considered proportionate. So most gloves are either tight on the palm and loose on the fingers or vice versa.

Thanks, Ill grab a set. It was may plan to upgrade to the Hornady Locking rings sooner or later. I just had other things to get first.

That's the conclusion I came to and realized it all started after I pulled it apart to clean it. It has loaded about 5k with no issue.

Anyone had an issue while loading pistol rounds on a progressive and as you go along the bullets tend to get longer? I have a LnL and using a set of Lee dies. Here lately I've noticed that when I confirm starting length, 1.145 on a 9mm, by time I've finished 100 rounds it about 1.160. I know .015 is not a huge difference but its got me concerned the die might be bad.