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So, you fire one round, and the next won't fire. Did you take the upper off, and ensure the fire control group is functioning properly? Ensure the hammer spring is on correctly? If all is good there, and the trigger, disconnector, and hammer all function correctly, then look at your bolt carrier group. Sometimes, if there's heavy grease or lube in the firing pin channel it can slow the firing pin down so it doesn't strike the primer with enough force. Check to ensure the firing pin isn't damaged. Also, check to ensure your bolt carrier group goes into battery properly. If it's out of battery a touch it will cause a light strike and not fire off the cartridge. If it's not one of those three things, I don't know what else to look at. Another thing to look at will be your extractor. If your extractor is too tight it may not be slipping over the cartridge rim. This will cause the bcg to not fully be in battery, and thus not fire the rifle when the trigger is pulled. Early PA10's had this issue. The quick, easy, fix was to put an AR15 extractor spring in the bolt. The lighter spring allowed the extractor to slip over the case rim properly, thus allowing the bcg to go into battery, and subsequently fire off the round. Those are the things I would be looking at in this situation. Take them one at a time, and eliminate them as the problem. And, yes, run it wet with oil. I use 5W20 Mobil one. Seems to work real well for me.

I'm interested. I'll send you a IM.

I've got a PA15 and a PA10. They're both working great. The PA10 took some tweaking, and an extractor broke. It was no big deal though. Josiah ensured I was taken care of and sent out a new bcg. You can't ask for better customer service than that. I'll be buying more from PSA. I forgot to mention that PSA is the reason my son was able to get into AR's. He was able to put together a PA15 carbine for less than 425.00. And, he loves it. It hasn't missed a beat. It fires everything he feeds it, as do all mine. I've fired everything from Tula steel, to Wolf steel, to the more expensive brass ammo. It all functions great. We've had ZERO malfunctions due to ammo. And, in the PA15's we have had zero malfunctions PERIOD.

Seeing the negative comments toward Federal brass has me wondering. For my reloads I've been using Federal brass from some 150grn Federal Fusion rounds I shot up. The brass seems to be good. I'm on the 3rd loading for 60 of the pieces. I've got 40 in reserve. I haven't seen any pressure signs, other than the primers lightly flattened. Nothing bad. I'm loading 168grn TTSX bullets over 44.7 of Varget. I'm using Winchester large primers, and I do clean the primer pocket and flash hole. Getting a five round average of 2562fps. I use full length RCBS dies. And, I do a very light crimp with a crimping die. I've got 65rnds loaded. They're my hunting loads. I've fired about 40 rounds of this load testing for accuracy and the best seating depth. I haven't had any trouble so far out of the Federal brass I'm using. I'll definitely keep a close watch on them though. I checked all my loaded rounds after reading the above comments, and didn't notice any issues on the brass. They have been firing well from my PA10, with no issues at all.

Nice write up! I look forward to reading and seeing more on PSA.

I noticed you got the EPT trigger. I did too. On mine, I added a JP Enhanced Reliability Spring Kit. The spring kit was easy to install, cheap, and made my trigger both lighter, and smoother. I really like it a lot. No light strikes or malfunctions with this spring kit. JP Enhanced Reliability Spring Kit for the trigger and hammer.

That looks like the upper I have on my PA10. I think you'll like it. It's good to know PSA is taking care of you.

Sounds like you have a PA10 that runs good, and is accurate to boot. I've worked up a load for mine that uses a 168grn TTSX bullet, Federal brass, Winchester primers, and Varget. I'm getting an average of 2562fps. It's going to be my hunting load. When I do my part it's putting out sub moa groups. I found out that my rifle HATES, absolutely HATES, a clean bore. I've got a couple rough spots that smooth out with some fouling. She likes to run dirty and wet. I didn't break her in like you have done to yours though. I just put her together, and shot a lot of ammo of various kinds. After each range session I run a bore snake down the bore several times with some CLP. So, she ain't pampered. My buddy, who's helping me with reloading, decided I needed to clean her real good. So, I let him clean out the bore real good. Got rid of all the copper fouling. My groups went to hell. I went from sub moa/moa, to 2-3 moa. My groups didn't tighten back up until I went through 100 or so rounds , and a couple bore snakings. Perhaps if I had broken her in like you did to yours she might run better clean.

JP makes good stuff. I used the Anderson Manufacturing adjustable gas block. It was an exact fit for my barrel, almost like it was oem. AM15 Adjustable gas block.

Mine was dimpled. I have the 18" SS barrel.

Glad to hear Josiah is gonna take care of you Bud. PSA will make good on your rifle. Like others have said, their large frame PA10 platform has had it's issues. There's a few of us who have gotten our rifles to perform well. I love mine. It's shooting well. The one issue I had was a broken extractor and Josiah took care of me on that real quick.

Did you thoroughly clean the bore and chamber prior to firing? I do that with any new rifle to ensure there isn’t any factory lube, dirt, metal shavings, or anything else in the action, chamber, and bore.

My rifle barrel likes to run a bit fouled. I like to use a bore snake with a bit of CLP on it after each range trip. That doesn't get the copper fouling out, but my rifle seems to be more accurate with a little copper fouling. I observed this on my last range trip. My buddy and I have been working up some good reloads for the rifle. We had a load that had gotten decent 1-1.25" groups with a couple sub moa on the last trip. We decide to clean our bores. He suggested I get all the copper fouling out. So, I let him clean my rifle barrel. My last range trip after that cleaning the same exact loads opened up to close to 3" groups. Nothing else had changed. So, I fired off about 80rnds of surplus ammo. Then I shot 4 five shot groups of Malasian milsurp, cause I was out of the reloads. The last four groups were all sub 2" groups, with a couple that went 1.5" and 1.7". The tightest group was the last group. I would not have believed shooting a copper fouled bore would enhance barrel accuracy if I hadn't seen it. After the session, my buddy and I looked at the bore with a bore scope. The reason became apparent. The SS PA10 barrel had some rough spots in it. You could see where after shooting a bit the copper sort of smoothed over the rough spots. The first rounds had to go over the rough spots getting copper scraped off the bullets, and the final groups probably had a much smoother bore to travel due to those rough spots being smoothed out with copper. So, after seeing that, I doubt I'll do a thorough cleaning of the rifle bore with more than a bore snake and some CLP. At least not until group sizes open up. My guess is that there are probably quite a few rifle bores with rough spots that probably shoot better with some copper fouling, more so than we'd like to think.

If they'd fix that issue and the over gassing they'd sell a metric ton of those rifles every day if they could produce that many.

Yessir!! You can't beat that kind of customer service. Josiah took care of business, and went way above what I expected from PSA. He is a man of his word, and he WILL take care of you better than you expected.

I can remember my dad having some issues with an old bolt action 16ga shotgun a time or two. He had some issues with it not extracting shells a few times. I'm not sure what he did with it, but it worked well enough after that. Then the stock cracked right at the grip, and we screwed, and glued, it back together. That old shotgun kicked like a mule. We never had any trouble out of any of our rifles, except an old semi auto .22. I can't remember the brand anymore, but Remington seems to come to mind. It was a jammomatic. My dad hated it. He sold it off. All our big game rifles worked great. We never had nothing real expensive, mostly just Remingtons and Savages. Good solid rifles that just worked. I never got into semi auto rifles and pistols until I started my career in corrections and law enforcement.

Josiah came through for me!! Thank you so much Josiah for your help getting my issue handled!! Y'all, Josiah went above and beyond what I expected by sending me a complete new bolt carrier group. It was my extractor that broke. I figured he'd send an extractor, or maybe a bolt, but he sent an entire new bolt carrier group. You can't beat that kind of customer service!!

Roger that! We're lucky now days as far as the learning curve goes. We have the luxury of the internet, and forums. When I first started shooting AR's it was to qualify for the agency I worked for. The first time was 1982. It wasn't long and I wanted one. Back then we didn't have the internet to discuss things or learn things from other guys. We had only the folks around us, and magazines(the paper kind). The local gun store sold some parts, and could mail order for you. There were no websites to magically click on the parts you wanted, pay for them electronically, and then take them out of your mail box a few days later. It's a wonderful thing to have forums like this to discuss our weapons, and hobbies.

I would add, if I were to recommend a .308 AR for a new shooter it would not be a PSA. At least not until they get all the bugs worked out completely.

If PSA did in fact make things simple, as in PA10's that operated properly, it would be great. However, I and many others have had trouble with the bolt timing, over gassing.....etc. I agree, make it simple, and make it work PROPERLY. Properly being the key word. Bfoosh06 has already documented issues with PSA changing buffer tube sizes and buffers in the PA10 platform, along with other issues. Had I not made changes to my rifle it would have had to go back to PSA. And, frankly, their shipping times had me scared my rifle would be in never never land forever. So, I fixed it myself. BTW, my rifle had zero changes to it or mods. I only made whatever changes necessary to get it to function properly. Once it was functioning properly it got a new stock and a muzzle brake.

In my case the over gassed situation in my rifle was beating the crap out of the rifle(and me). Cases were ejecting to 12:00-1:00, with some stove piping. Recoil was stout. I've never sent any gun back to the manufacturer for any issue. I've never really had an issue with any of my guns. I have a little experience with AR's due to my profession. So, I decided to remedy the issue myself. I read on a couple different forums about similar issues other guys were having with their PA10's. I added two tungsten weights to the buffer, making it an H3. I had to put two quarters behind the spring. And, then I added the agb. The agb made all the difference in the world. No more stove pipes. Less recoil. Ejecting cases to 3:00-3:30. No more beating me or the rifle up. Now the rifle runs great. Brass looks good. The rifle is fairly accurate. Frankly, PSA should be doing better on their PA10 platform. I think the fact that they're now offering the agb on the 6.5CM is an indication they realize they've got some issues with over gassing and tuning of their PA10 platform. They should be offering the agb on their .308's as well.

Glad your rifle is shooting good for you Odie64 and The Father. The PA10 sure had some teething problems. I think it still does, even in the PA10 Gen 2's. I think all of them should come with an adjustable gas block, PERIOD. And, their buffer tubes/buffer combo's should be better QC'd. My bcg/buffer tube/buffer combo was out of time, and the bcg was striking the receiver end during firing. I had to put a couple quarters in mine to get it timed right. Plus, they should all come with H3 buffers, not the light weight H buffers. After seeing Bfoosh06's threads on this I made some mods to mine to address those issues. Now my rifle shoots pretty well, and is pleasant to shoot. In my opinion it should come from the factory ready to go, with no need to make those tweaks. My PA15 didn't need ANYTHING, and it's been running like a top. However, being an AR15 platform they have a spec to go by for their rifles.

I haven't noticed any setback in any of the factory rounds I've fired. The reloads I've been developing have only been shot one at a time, as I'm trying to develop a good accuracy load with the TTSX bullets. My plan is to use my reloads for hunting. So, I definitely want them reliable, without the possibility of any set back. When I hunt, I don't normally use mags with more than ten in capacity. In fact, I've found the 20-30 round mags in both my .308 and 5.56 are a pain to move around inside a blind. The mags also get in the way when shooting from a bench at the range. So, I've purchased ten round mags for those purposes. About the only time I've used the 30's was on some hog and coyote hunts where my shooting was more open, standing and sitting, with no bench or window from a blind. I'm using RCBS full length, small base, resizing dies. The TTSX bullets do have cannelures. They're smooth, not ridged like some bullets have. So, I think they'd be easy to crimp. Right now, my seating depth puts the case rim right in the middle of the top cannelure. Off hand I don't remember the OAL, but the rounds just fit into the magazine with no binding and operate smoothly. From what I'm reading the TTSX bullets do good with a jump to the lands, more so than other bullets. I can believe this, as the factory Barnes TTSX loads were getting decent accuracy out of my rifle, and they're seated a few thousandths deeper than mine.

Roger that. I’ve got a crimping die on the way.

Yesterday I went to Primary Arms near where I live and got an JP extractor for my bolt. Fixed the bolt. Went shooting today. Did some load work. Shot some factory rounds and had some decent groups. I shot a few 1.5" groups. I had a ten shot group that shot into 1.5". I had a ton of 3 shot groups that were touching, but always added a couple more shots to open them up a touch. Right now, the rifle is a solid 1.5" rifle with several types of ammo. I'm planning on doing some reloading to get those groups sub moa. At least that's my goal. The groups today weren't too bad. Sure was a pretty day for shooting too. On the reloads I haven't been crimping the bullets. A buddy of mine tells me that perhaps I should crimp. He thinks that the fliers on the reloads may be due to the bullets slightly moving when the bolt slams them home into the chamber. What do ya'll think?