Cliff R

You can have trouble with any carrier and rest assured USPS ain't much better. They are OK for envelopes and small items under apprx 2 pounds, but for sure NEVER ship anything with them that's fragile, valuable or you give a chit about because they will either break it or have sex with it!.....LOL....

We received six of the "new" at that time 92F's for testing. Ran them thru the paces and they made the grade. We put WAY over 2500 rounds thru them w/o a single failure of any kind. I'd add here that I noticed the "huge" fireball when night shooting and the recoil/report was pretty hefty for a 9mm pistol but we continued to test them. At that time I was an instructor on staff at the small arms instructor training school, or train the trainer. To make a long story short we looked at the ammo supplied for them and it was designated TZZ 9mm in 64 round boxes from Israeli Industries and noted that it was pretty "hot" and designed for UZI 32 round magazines. At almost the exact same time we did this another service testing them (pretty sure it was the Marine Corps) had a slide break and injure the shooter. Almost immediately another incident with a broken slide occurred. Within days we get a Servicewide message to stop using the TZZ ammo. It was replaced with Olin Industries 9mm in 50 round boxes, which was considerably "mild" in comparison to the TZZ. Since this happened close to forty years ago I'm a little sketchy on the details but for sure the ammo was a contributing factor to slide failures. I also remember Beretta making a change to the weapons shortly after the slide breaking issues developed but can't remember exactly what they did to them....maybe some heat treating and adding something to keep the slide from separating from the frame and giving you a facial?. In any case I have personally never observed a failure with an M9 pistol and we were still using them when I retired in 2003. In all those years and being directly responsible for sending hundreds of thousands of rounds down range it's a testament to how good they really are. As an SAI it was also really nice to be able to run relays without any alibi's of any kind which was NOT possible with the aging 45's they replaced. Failure to feed, eject and "stove pipes" were common with the 45 pistols even though we gave them all the TLC they needed in the armory. So for sure it was a well needed "upgrade" for the Military in that area. Even with that said I'm personally NOT a fan of the M9 pistol and would never own one. Instead the secondary weapon in my ruck is a Smith & Wesson M & P which has about a zillion rounds thru it at this point and still flawless. It's never once done anything it wasn't supposed to, it's very accurate and feels much better in the hand that the big/bulky Beretta 92........

Yikes! Well, it passed the "Timex Test".....takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Good testament for the Glock as well, tough as nails. Hard to believe it didn't get picked for the last Military contract. I remember WAY back when the Beretta 92F was awarded the first contract to replace our aging 45 autos. Big, bulky, ugly but they offered it at a price that it rose to the top of the pile over several pistols that worked equally as well but cost more......

Thanks for sharing and sorry for the late response, I haven't checked in here in quite a while. I find the footage difficult to watch and can't imagine recovering on top of a mountain after sustaining some pretty serious wounds, outnumbered, out gunned, and everyone else has left me for the buzzards. It's also a reality check and I have trouble getting my head wrapped around the fact that you can be in one of the most desolate remote parts of the World in the worst possible circumstances you will ever face and someone is getting it on film. So in really doesn't matter where you are or what you are doing there's a good chance someone is watching you....that's pretty scary if you sit back and think about it for a minute........

Have been eye balling one of these for a while. I have the same pistol is the "S" version. Was looking for higher magazine capacity and found this one used by basically "new" condition. First time I've ever ordered a weapon on-line, the transaction was smooth and price was right. Going to ventilate the new burn barrel with it today. 13 + 1 so I woln't be changing mags as often.......

Until a few minutes ago never heard of the 45 Raptor, but I've been out of the loop since retiring couple years ago. Looks like a get-er-done-er for sure. On the larger platform for sure it has more working pressure. Hope it works out well for ya......

In these post COVID times we are still experiencing unrealist shortages on many things, plus prices are higher than they should be. To this day I don't understand the decision making matrix associated with COVID. Why would you hoard perishable items? Yes, folks were stocking up on milk, bread and other items that don't last very long and many require refrigeration instead of buying canned and dry goods that will be around for quite a while......and toilette paper....WTF? Wipe your ass with a wet washcloth dummy, saves money too! A lot of the problem is simply because people make STOOPID decisions with their money. Just because a disease swept across the country and quite a few folks we know didn't make it is no reason to realize our mortality and run out and buy chit we don't need and even worse pay too much for it. As long as that trend continues everything in our lives will cost more, and often become more difficult to obtain......IMHO......

For sure there will be a Youtube "hero" on there someplace with a good recipe for snapping turtle soup. Hopefully the wind woln't be blowing in the microphone, the fat lady next door is yelling at her kids in the background, loud diesel trucks "coaling" folks on the main road in front of his house.......and you don't have to listen to everything the guy did before he reached puberty BEFORE you get the soup recipe....LOL. I remember dad cleaning them and boiling the meat till it was tender, of course he put onions, celery, carrots, potatoes and a handful of salt/black pepper and two about two tablespoons of flour in it like just about all the other wild game we cooked up back then.........

Damned good eatin right there! Haven't had turtle soup since I was a kid. We used to catch a lot of those in small streams in these parts. Dad would take them home and fatten em up some with corn in a big barrel. We caught a really big one about 25 pounds that would take chunks out of a shovel handle when we poked it at him. Better than getting hold of your fingers! Just about every year a few females come out of the swamp across the road to lay their eggs on my property. I take them back across the road in the side-by-side so they will live to make the journey again next year......

RK has had their fair share of troubles with folks walking (or running) right out the front door with merchandise. Right after they opened I was getting out of my truck in the parking lot and a guy comes running past me with a Milwaukee tool kit, one of those big boxes with half a dozen tools in it. Not far behind him were a couple of store employees. He threw the big box into the bed of his F-150 and sped off. I'm sure there have been a lot more similar incidents as store security seems to be pretty lacking there. I've been at the front registers many times when no one was even around the service desk and at most one or two at ringing folks up.......

Help yourself, no one is watching! Good friend of mine shows up to work (he manages the "gun barn") at a local RK store. He notices that several displays he set-up and filled the day before are emptied. He asks fellow employees if they sold all that ammo and none of them know anything about it. He takes a few minutes to check video footage. Turns out a guy comes into the store, grabs a big push cart that you'd typically load up with feed bags or heavy items. He goes past a display of those big black totes with the yellow lids. Grabs one, throws it on the cart, swings by the ammo displays and unloads them into the tote. He heads right out the front of the store and gone. Turns out he hit two other stores the same day in the same fashion and no one noticed anything until they checked stock and video footage. Haven't heard if they found him yet or not. Seems pretty bold and for sure they need to make some changes to their security. This is not the first incident and earlier this year an employee at another store was killed when he confronted a shoplifter stealing ammuniton. You'd think some major changes would be in order. Locking down the ammo like they do the guns maybe? Right now they require all ammo purchases happen at the Gun Barn, but I've bought ammo multiple times there off of displays in the front or other parts of the store and paid for them at the front registers. Anyhow, doesn't look like video surveillance and requiring ammo purchases happen in the Gun Barn is helping out much. I suspect it will be the few who make it bad for the many and we'll have to buy our ammo from an employee behind a locked gate at some point......

Holy chit batman, an hour and twenty two minutes......sorry.......at my age I'm not willing to give the kid that much of my time....sorry. "It’s been a pretty rough year. But I have missed you guys. And I couldn’t pass up a chance to help get Tom riled up more on a thread." I also hope things get better for you. Did you retire recently?......

We should learn from our past, NOT re-write it. It should ALL remain just like it is as a contant reminder for us to do a better job in the future.......IMHO.....

Agreed. In any and all cases the threat needs to be iliminated. The guy killed 8 civilians so about all that putting few extra rounds into him after he's down just makes sure he doesn't get to plead not guilty a few days later........IMHO.....

"Mainly drawing from the pocket holster and quick firing groups of 2 and 3 shots at a 6" target at about 5yds. (15 feet). By the end the hour, I was up to 90%" Do that daily for a month and I'm betting you'll be up to 100 percent! Sights are not needed for "close quarters" work, IMHO. I practice drawing and shooting frequently. I consider "close quarters" 3' to about 10'. No need for sights or coming all the way up with the weapon. I don't "hip shoot" as was commonly taught decades ago and depicted in Bill Jordan's excellent book. I prefer to bring the weapon up further to chest level with a solid two hand grip. Without using sights and some practice all your rounds should fall inside a playing card without much effort. Quick aquisition sights have taken over the industry in recent years and I can see why. I prefer them on my AR-15's and have my "go-to" AR outfitted with an Eotech and a Red Dot on another one that I really like. It's motion activated which is pretty cool so no buttons to mess with when it's time to get to work with it......