Cali_Ed Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hello guys, I have put off loading pistol rounds becuase I wasn't sure of the awnser of the question I'm about to ask. Does a pistol seating die also give a crimp like a rifle die does? Or should crimping be done on its own step with a crimping only die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I use the Lee dieset and it comes with its own separate crimping die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 It depends on the Lee dieset. Most standard 3-die sets by Lee, the third die is a seating/crimping die. Lee's 4-die set has one die for seating, a separate die for crimping. If you are shooting metallic silhouette at 200 meters with your handgun, then do the operations separately. If you are looking to practice making liquid relief holes, the more holes the better and "one ragged hole" accuracy isn't necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have the three die set, I asked because I usually make one dummy round to keep as reference. I loaded it racked into place and bullet got pushed back. Is that becuase of lack of crimp and powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 it is because of a weak crimp. Seat your bullet to the proper OAL, then back out the seating stem so it will make ZERO contact with the bullet. Now adjust your crimp until it holds the bullet firmly enough that chambering the round won't push it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ah ok so the die has 2 adjustments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Ah ok so the die has 2 adjustments Yes, he means that you set the die so it doesn't crimp the case ( raise the Presses ram with a 9mm case in it ,into the die & screw the die down until you can feel the crimp touch the case & back it off a little ) then seat a bullet , after you have your proper COL set , you back away the seating stem enough so you can screw the Die to set the crimp with out the seating stem seating the bullet any farther into the case , once the crimp is set , with the press ram still all the way up ,like your seating a Bullet & crimping the case around the Bullet ,screw the seating stem back down to make contact with the bullet & lock it down . This will give you a fully seated bullet , with a crimp , just make sure your COL didn't change ( because the seating stem may not be far enough down , seat another bullet to see where its at ) & if it did move, adj. the seating stem correct it . Or you can set the die to only seat the bullet & Crimp in another step . Its what I do , but I also hand prime all my ammo . The bullet pushing back into the case can be a weak crimp or your COL was too long for the chamber . 9MM should be a Taper crimp , because the 9MM 's case head space's in the chamber on the case mouth & it will not feel like a crimp , more like light swaging , because all your doing is closing the case around the Bullet . Just like the 45 ACP & a bunch of others. Lee also has a Factory Crimp Die , that puts a decent Crimp on the Brass .It has its own instructions . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 /\/\/\ Yup...that's what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Do you have the instructions for your die set ? Last I looked , Reloading Manuals have the reloading sequence , with photo's , in the front of most of them . <dontknow> At least the older ones do . <thumbsup> Pistol3.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Thanks brother ss super helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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