tubbs + heavy buffer

[308lrnewb]

How many people run this setup? Robocop#### posted about it, I believe.. when I used the search feature.

Also, everyone calls the tubb spring CS. The webpage says it is stainless. What does the CS mean?

[308lrnewb]

Turns out, they changed from chrome silicon buffer springs to stainless steel "to meet MILSPEC requirements." Customer service guy claims 80% of chrome silicon lifespan. Change to endure saltwater tests. *shrug* sounds like they reduced production costs for profit margin.

Closing the question about the nomenclature issues of threads from two and three years back versus current storefront marketing.

If anyone else is running this combination, please chime in.

The ASKHOLE man

[survivalshop]

  As long as its a 308 Buffer system, it will not make a difference , I run two Tubb's springs ,one in a Carbine 308AR & one in a Rifle 308AR system , two different weight Buffers & lengths , but same Tubb's spring , because the same Tubb's 308AR spring is used for both Rifle & Carbine Systems . The Carbine is a little more difficult to install then in a rifle system , but not all that bad .

 The 308 has plenty of Gas signature & as long as the Gas Port in the Barrel is of the correct size , shouldn't be an issue .

[washguy]

HaHa okay Lrnewb......just get ya a tubbs spring and a car308 buffer if ya are gonna use the car stock...which you should....Take the heavy  buffer that you paid 100 bills for...look real hard and you will find a trap door where two AA batteries fit in....insert the batteries and then insert the buffer in your Askhole

now you know why its machined soooo smooooothe                    Wash

[308lrnewb]

Why put a carbine stock with 18" barrel? Would not all the additional moving parts add weight? Not only that, but... those two AA batteries may give my colon a shocking cleanse. I drink a special tea for that. =\

I actually had looked for the vltor tube/stock and considered such a build.. but, I could not find one inventoried. Do not find one for me either, the next part on my build is a barrel. ;-)

I understand and agree that the carbine stocks do increase mobility when slung or traversing rougher terrain. How much weight do they add? Also, the last few I had experience with rattled pretty annoyingly. However, that may have just been my own ears. Not really on subject here though. I was just curious about the part stack up. Clint spoke fairly... despairingly for the Tubb spring.

ASKHole AWAY!!

[washguy]

LRNewb        Why put a car stock on an 18" barrel? whats 18" got to do with anything? Car stocks are less weight mostly...the rogers superstock locks up and doesnt weigh much at all...none of my car stocks rattle...Newb...you gotta be yankin my chain...right?   you wanting less weight but wanting a heavy azz buffer...come on now
Wash

[308lrnewb]

not looking for less weight. asking how the weights compare. The DPMS carbine rattles a bit.. I only am interested in the heavy buffer for recoil reasons. When opting to stay non-adjustable gas system, the additional weight is reported to help control thump by spreading it over a slightly longer duration.

As much as I hate that 'tacticool' look.. I may opt for the BCM a5 buffer tube, XH ar15 carbine buffer and the tubb spring. The ACS stock seems reasonable. Simply put - ease of clambering around. Not to mention I notice it stretches a bit longer than the A2 stock when at max length. 

Weight is not so much the issue of being light/heavy, just where said weight resides. Steel barrel + aluminum and plastic controls = nose heavy. Flinging wrenches all day may make me resilient to some weight out front but still. For the USPSA multi-gun days, it will make a difference when running and gunning. Need some way to add more mass for the rear end. Guess.. increasing my double A battery count from two to six and stuffing it in a buttstock hole would be better than my ASKhole, when it comes to balancing acts.

[jtallen83]

My Magpul ACS locks up tight, my Magpul MOE Slim-Line fits nice and tight without a locking lever. If you want to balance the weight then look at the Magpul UBR.

[survivalshop]

   I would be wary of mixing AR 15 components with an 308AR Buffer system, unless you plan on using Armalite AR 10 Buffer assembly , including the Receiver Extension , 308 Buffer spring & a Heavy H3 AR 15 Buffer . With the Tubb's spring , as said there is no need for a Heavy Buffer .

    No offense to Clint , but he is selling a system & the Tubb's spring would contradict his system he is selling , direct competition . Nothing wrong with Heavy Buffers or the system he sells, just two different ways to accomplish the same thing .

   My Magpul CTR & ACR both have a locking system to lock down the stock . An Adj. Stock is just that , it can be adj. for length of pull or those who find a Rifle stock too long , not to mention if you are wearing tactical gear .

  You wanted an A2 stock , just stick with it & a 308AR Buffer & Spring & you will be fine , add a Brake or Compensator for a Muzzle Device & your 18" barrel & the rifle will run smooth as silk , now if you start swapping incompatible components , you will most likely have issues , Keep it simple with the correct components & it will be smooth sailing .

 

[308lrnewb]

    No offense to Clint , but he is selling a system & the Tubb's spring would contradict his system he is selling , direct competition . Nothing wrong with Heavy Buffers or the system he sells, just two different ways to accomplish the same thing .

 

Good point. Thank you guys!