Nereus Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I have to say this system takes all the dope calculations out of the picture. I am looking hard at the Eliminator 3 for my AR-10. I have a MK4 on the 700 but the size and capabilities offered(albeit if they are true) would be a better choice on the AR IMO. Anyone have any inputs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Very interesting. It's also priced with premium traditional scopes of similar magnification http://bit.ly/18GI1R8We have an unwritten rule here that if a member asks about an item that no member currently owns that member must purchase said item and report back. That's how I ended up with a Browe optic :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204 AR Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I absolutely love the idea of the Eliminator, almost bought one of the earlier models. But what stopped me is that I've had other Burris scopes and the optics left a lot to be desired in less than ideal light conditions. Trying to target shoot while facing a setting sun was almost impossible, while other scopes seemed to filter the glare out better. The other problem I see is what happens when the electronics crap out after 5 or 10 years and the warranty is only for 3 years (I think). Like I said, I love the idea, but it's too much money for me to gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I really don't do targets but rapid engagement during low light(dusk/dawn) is what I am thinking. I could see glare washing out hologram. The possible failure issue is also a concern as was stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So you're thinking something more along the lines of a "strike-purpose" type of optic/sight. I understand. But.....you started the thread. And as imschur said (and being an enabler).....it's up to you to get one and report back to us. It's only fair. <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well after further research from comments here, its not a reliable optic. As it would seem there are issues with the power consistencies and low light wash out. Not really worth a $800 dollar experiment I'm afraid. Oh well on to the next option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I understand. I'm a EO-Tech kinda guy myself for some of my rifles....depending on barrel length. Everybody is gonna have their opinions when it comes to optics. You've got to find something that you like......and roll with it. (even though I'm an enabler). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Eotechs are good to go unless they get hot. Aimpoints are better but I am looking for variable magnification up too 500 yds. Tired of lugging around a heavy clump as well(why I sold the M1A). Leupold Hammers are a good choice plus they offer a killer discount for military. Gunna search around. Got nuttin but time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well.......if you're gonna bring it up. The Elcan optics are pretty nice. Pretty pricey.....but pretty nice. You've got the 1x / 4x (or 6x) mag. I've got one on my 10 SBR. Pretty nice. The "flip" feature is pretty sweet. You kinda get the best of both worlds. And durability? Both the EOtech and the Elcan....you could use them as clubs if you needed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Gunna look at the Elcan. The Hamr as well and compare. Well at least I can kinda narrow it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Check this out. This was when I got the 1x4 Elcan a couple months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Sorry for the shitty pics. Just from a phone camera. But these are on my 12.5" Armalite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I like the size of it. Low profile as well. Trijicon has a new VCOG coming out that compares with Elcan. I wish you could glass these before you buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Here's one of my 16" 10's with an ACOG. Just to give you some perspective. Another poor phone pic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Pics are fine. Yeah the ACOG is huge. The new VCOG looks more like the Elcan. Comes out in 2014. Be around Aimpoint,Eotech and ACOGS. The Elcan is new but I like the size and quick release option. What model is your Elcan and pros/cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 http://www.amazon.com/Elcan-SpecterDR-Optical-Sight-DFOV14-C2/dp/B00421SBXG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1384750645&sr=8-3&keywords=elcan+specter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Yeah, the ACOG may be big, but keep in mind that it's a combat optic.....on a 16" carbine. Granted....a 7.62 carbine. But the damn thing is durable. Meaning......you can bounce the thing off of the ground and it'll still work. The Elcan.......it's the specter 1x4. Once again...a combat optic. If you had to, you could pull it off of the rail and beat somebody with it. And then....put it back on. As with all optics....it all comes down to a matter of preference. Everybody has their own expectations with what they get. Edited November 18, 2013 by Rsquared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Don't get me wrong. The ACOG is an excellent optic. Trij has a new VCOG coming in 2014. It looks awesome as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Nahhh. I get it it, man. I haven't looked at the new Trijicon yet. If it's like the size of the Elcan, I might be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So where is LBC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 How "hot" does an Eotech have to get before it's unreliable? Down in our pit in summer it gets to 130* or so, with one on a 5.56 and another on a .308, with no issues so far. Getting them hot enough you can't put bare hands on the forearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Desert hot. LBC-California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 VCOG http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=VCOG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) After research I went with this. Decision was made on ya get what you pay for and it was cheaper than commercially available. Should do the tricks. http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TA11J-308 Edited November 20, 2013 by dfc5343 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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