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  1. Wasguy, is that the bolt off the Nexgen? I haven't seen one before. Kind of like comparing silver to gold. Heck why not mention your 16 ounce barrel to my 33.8 ounce barrel I have to wonder how the snarky comments on this forum chase away new members. This forum is the worst I have come across. I have discovered dozens of other forums whit people who actually want to exchange real information. Have you wondered WHY this forum has so little number of members?
  2. Sweet rifle, Mine likes the 175 SMKs for accuracy, but 186 grain rounds are pretty good. That DPMS SASS barrel is the best value of any 308s barrel. I have seen it just over $200 on sale at Midway. Built my SASS in 2014, shot over 6 weeks (missed Easter) 5 consecutive cold bore bulls-eyes.
  3. POF makes a 7 position 308 buffer tube that allows using standard AR 15 type buffers. They call it anti-tilt but I like the fact the end of the carrier rests on the buffer tube and not in front of the retainer/tube. One thing I thought I noticed is there isn't the gap usually needed by barrels and the gas block, should be about 2 business cards thick. You could have the barrel hole partially covered.
  4. Just confirmed the titanium carrier is made by Toolcraft and the bolt is 9310 material with Salt Bath Nitride coating
  5. Not sure as title states "Discuss non brand specific parts selection and details here" because everyone is naming names. But right now there is only one company selling retail a titanium 308 carrier complete BCG. JL Billet has the 11.90 ounce BCG for $396, over $80 less then the 308 JP LMOS BCG. I have only shot it twice this week, but ZERO problems. The company that makes this BCG produces 6,000 BCGs per week so they are a major producer of higher quality BCGs. Biillet Titanium 308 Bolt Carrier Group with Black Nitride Bolt Machined from 6AL-4V billet titanium to strict tolerances and PVD coated with Tribobond to increase surface hardness, ensure a long service life all while increasing lubricity. Ionbond’s Tribobond™ 43 DLC, a-C:H, is one of the most well proven DLC coatings for tools, industrial and automotive components. It combines excellent running-in properties with a good wear resistance and low friction properties. Tribobond™ 43 DLC shows excellent performance on industrial components in aerospace, transmissions, wind energy and roller bearing applications. Technical Specs 6AL-4V TitaniumIonbond-Tribobond CoatingMPI 9310 Tool Steel BoltBlack Nitride Coated Bolt4140 Machined Gas KeyGrade 8 FastnersMADE IN THE USAPhoto is with a JP Enterprise titanium firing pin.
  6. Just found the first company on the web selling my AR 308 titanium 11.90 ounce BCG. Just listed by JL Billet a titanium bolt carrier group for sale @ $395 with bolt. Usually good bolts are nearly $200 so this is a very good price. The JP Enterprise 308 LMOS costs $470.95 and is much heavier. http://www.jlbillet.com/308-titanium...carrier-group/ I spoke with Andy of JL Billet, not shown on the web site but they will give a LEO and military discount. You might have to call in to get it on the first order. Remember this BCG does not come with a titanium firing pin and the POF roller cam pin.
  7. Just up on their web site, the first titanium AR 308 BCG for sale. Just listed by JL Billet a titanium bolt carrier group for sale @ $395 with bolt. Usually good bolts are nearly $200 so this is a very good price. The JP Enterprise 308 LMOS costs $470.95 and is much heavier. http://www.jlbillet.com/308-titanium-bolt-carrier-group/ Biillet Titanium 308 Bolt Carrier Group with Black Nitride Bolt Machined from 6AL-4V billet titanium to strict tolerances and PVD coated with Tribobond to increase surface hardness, ensure a long service life all while increasing lubricity. Ionbond’s Tribobond™ 43 DLC, a-C:H, is one of the most well proven DLC coatings for tools, industrial and automotive components. It combines excellent running-in properties with a good wear resistance and low friction properties. Tribobond™ 43 DLC shows excellent performance on industrial components in aerospace, transmissions, wind energy and roller bearing applications. Technical Specs 6AL-4V TitaniumIonbond-Tribobond CoatingMPI 9310 Tool Steel BoltBlack Nitride Coated Bolt4140 Machined Gas KeyGrade 8 FastnersMADE IN THE USA
  8. Since I had to remove the scope to put the new lighter hand guard on, I used the time to measure the rifle at the new lighter weight.
  9. Since I had to remove the scope to put the new lighter hand guard on, I used the time to measure the rifle at the new lighter weight.
  10. It is easy and fairly low cost to build an AR 15 under 6 pounds. We are starting to see manufacturers advertise 6 pound AR 15's, they do call them SCR or scope ready rifles. I love that stock because it has NO AR TWANG, and is over a pound lighter that most buffer tubes with stocks. That one weighs a huge 3.5 ounces! Add just about any 6.5, 6.8, 270 Wolverine etc barrel that isn't bull barreled and under 2 pounds. Faxon makes some great light weigh barrels that shoot great, and Wilson Combat makes a true match grade 6.8 barrel that weighs 25.8 ounces. My barrel weighs 21.9 ounces. Add just about any receiver set that isn't hugely over weight. Put a carbon fiber or Bravo KMR hand guard on. Use a light weight carrier, such as JP LMOS or better the $140 stripped Young National Match lite carrier. It weighs about 0.1 ounces more than the JP LOMS but costs half. Actually if you use either aluminum or titanium lower parts and gas blocks you pay about the same or less than Novesky but cut many ounces. Actually it isn't hard to get to 5 pounds. But it is a PITA to get below 4 pounds.
  11. I have to laugh as my AR 15 in 6.8 SPC weighs less that both of those rifles, with a legal 16.1 inch barrel. No super light 223 round, I shoot the Hornady 120 SST and the Berger 140 VLD. Just got the Bad Ass titanium 0.750 gas block @‌ 0.60 ounces and put in a lighter hand guard. New weight is 3.426 pounds. I have to admit with a rifle that weighs LESS than the Ruger 10/22 takedown it does have more kick than a stock 6.8. But I have a bad shoulder, kind of gimpy. I let veterans at the range shoot it, brings huge smiles to their face when they see the size of the bullets and how accurate it is. This one wears a Leupold with mount adds one pounds so 4.4 pounds with scope. Magazine weighs 2 ounces and 5 with 5 rounds. This was a pretty fast group, maybe under 30 seconds for the first 9 rounds. Point of aim was the X, last shot I moved point of aim about 1.5 inches left. Wind was 15 MPH from 270 degrees and temp was 100 degrees. Yeh I should have been half an inch lower but I am old.
  12. Look, I just don't see the need for 10 shot groups, besides that's $15 worth of ammo. That 10 shot group was with ammo that is NOT the most accurate in my barrel, and the barrel was NOT broken in at that point. I think those were #30-39. Got much more accurate after #61. With my 11.80 ounce titanium carrier and bolt group rifle now weighs 5.1 pounds. I was really surprised at the kick when the gas block was open. After 4 adjustments kick more like a 6.8 SPC with a flash hider instead of a muzzle brake. NO flinching, no huge kick. That was the whole purpose of cutting half a pound off the BCG. A hundred pound person could fire this one without a problem. Also zero failures to feed, zero failures to fire, zero failures to eject. I put a JP Enterprise titanium firing pin into the BCG, wanted to see the accuracy difference from my other lower with SSA-E trigger and if the polymer hammer had enough oomph to fire the round with half the weight of the titanium firing pin. Group size just a tenth to quarter MOA more than the SSA-E trigger and zero failures to fire, or any problems. I admit to being cheap, splatter targets are close to $1 each, so if I see a splatter target on a frame I use that one, heck I even dig in the trash barrels to get the dots people throw away. The target was on the First of October, about 90 degrees with winds 15 to 20 with gusts to 30. They shut down the range when over 25 so I knew time was limited. That was a semi cold barrel shot as there is a break of about 15 minutes for people to put targets out. Kind of hard to call cold bore shot when ambient temp was 90 degrees.
  13. Only one 10 round dump using 168 grain Federal SMKs. this was before barrel started shooting better. Still under 2 MOA at 100 yards. This rifle likes 175 grain SMKs much better. Since there were 10 rounds in magazine a couple went through same holes. This group was about 50-60 seconds, not super fast but not slow either. About as fast as this ole man could get the point of aim back. Recoil was actually pretty hard as I hadn't adjusted the gas block yet. Rifle is at 84.85 ounces right now, getting my titanium carrier with new bolt next week. So will be about 5.1 pounds without scope, still using my Vortex scope so add another 24.5 ounces, total with scope 106.1 ounces or 6.63 pounds. Looking hard for a 30 mm tube scope with at least 14 power and weight under 16 ounces.
  14. There are many good people on this forum, just too many with comments not productive. And no I think all rifles should be listed without a scope weight. That is how the gun magazines do it. New hand guard with barrel nut and three titanium holding screws at 2.97 ounces and at 10.5 inches. Anyways with new hand guard I am down to 5.3 pounds. Recoil is good after adjusting gas system. After 61 round through the barrel, and a LOT of cleaning, 61st round was dead center bulls-eye, shifted to another target, another bulls-eye, did one more time with same results. Finally ejection at 3 PM with Federal Gold 175 SMK's.
  15. DEWS, you don't seem to get it! I use a heavy scope with high power (25) to break in the barrel. Usually takes between 60 and 100 rounds for the accuracy to get as good at it will go. I have 23 rounds through it now, 20 of Norma 150 grain because they seem to have the least powder residue of all the 308 rounds I have shot. Last three rounds shown were Federal Premium Gold 175 SMKs, had to hold over and then kept point of aim at the same spot, so wasn't sighting in the bulls-eye. Just looking to see how the 175 SMK's would group. The 175 SMK's have shot the best in each of my 308s. After break in I usually put a scope with between 10 and 14 power max on it as I can then hit MOD, as in minute of deer, a 6 inch diameter section at 200 yards. So next scope usually weighs between 10 ounces and 16 ounces. Will never put a back up sights on this or any of my rifles! My ideal scope isn't made yet, a light weight 2-10 using a 30 mm body. Only available in older technology one inch body now. The older lens has about 90% light transmission, newer scope have almost 98% light transmission. What do you consider usable sights? Just not going to put "mil spec" fold down sights on a hunting rifle. You act like a child because you think all rifles should be listed with a scope weight, only thing wrong with that is there are at least 1000 different scopes with many different powers. So the only fair and reasonable way of comparing a rifle is with out any sights on it. Also same goes with magazines, some weigh 3 ounces some are pushing 16 ounces. This rifle will do any of your tactical stuff, breaking in windows, hefting the next donut eater over the wall etc. Yes my brother is a LEO too, but I pretty much have lost respect for you. Do you guys realize how petty and inane you sound on your replies? It is no wonder this forum has so few members. If you can't contribute you should keep your ***** jtallen83, you would like this barrel, you could rip 20 rounds as "fast as you can send them" and the fluting cools down very quickly. I was surprised how cool the barrel remained. Still as an ex operator you shooting style might be considered a good way to burn out a quality barrel. Might be great for Zombie shooting but you just don't hunt by "sending then as fast as you can pull the trigger". Can you shoot a sub MOA group at 200 yards or better at 500 yards, 5 shot group?? MikedaddyH, a polymer lower would save over 5 ounces, 11.2 vs 5.85 ounces. At least you get it and had some good comments. Thank you. An electronic sight would put the total weight under 6 pounds. Been there and tried that. I am old and don't enjoy shooting at 50 yards. Much more fun shooting at 200 yards.
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