Czgunner

I've used several. My favorite is the Midwest Industries.

I'm busting my tail working through college (again) and am pretty much locked down here for another year. I sure appreciate your invite though.

I'd love to.

That's a very good list. My comments have been focused on the OP's question of "in a SHTF situation". I think many people assume that they will be alone and need to survive alone. Now is the time to build relationships with your neighbors and establish community. One of my greatest frustrations is the difficulty finding a range that will allow dynamic training vs static. The classes I have taken really opened up to me the importance of foot work and situational awareness. Things that are tough to work on at the FUDD range standing at a bench.

I'll read through that, thanks. I wasn't high speed, like I've mentioned before, I was ADA. I did work with enough "pokey part of the spear" guys to know that things can and do go wrong. My only point was that going it alone wouldn't be my first choice.

I think the big thing here is having a competent team. If you are a loner and plan on shooting it out on a regular basis, chances are you won't last long.

Easy way to light a camp fire too!

I'm a big fan of the Maglula. Used it in Iraq, and it worked great.

My 308 is so heavy, I don't think it would be my first choice. Pretty sure I would grab my 11.5 5.56 or 12.5 6.8 SPC. Those 2 are a pleasure to carry and shoot. The Ti can only adds 10 ounces.

I agree with you about armor specifics. I can't seem to find anything specific, but that D-bag General Milley was quoted as saying something about defeating body armor and any future armor. I can't stand that moron. The entire premise seems strange to me anyway. What military will we fight that is employing armor? Russia? Doesn't seem that way. China? They like our money too much.

Sounds interesting. I'll have to look into the ARC.

I was pretty sure this new 6.8x51 does defeat near peer lvl IV plates. Maybe I misunderstood what I've been hearing.

I think they're both great and do pretty much the same thing. I've been shooting the 6.8 SPC since 2008, so that's what I'm most familiar with. There's a really good forum for that cartridge if you want some good info.

Just my opinion, but I think we have solutions that are better than having the entire team/squad/platoon carry what is essentially a DMR. JMO

Just be aware that many of these VS presentations are using the anemic Remington 6.8 loads. They screwed up the chamber drawing. If you are using real 6.8 loads, they compete with the Grendel way out there. Handloading is where it's at!

I wouldn't consider the Grendel cartridge hot, but it does ok in the small frame platform. That and the 6.8 SPS cartridge perform similarly out to range that a large cartridge does much better.

I'm glad I'm no longer in. The thing is a pig. Heavier rifle, heavier ammo, less ammo. I don't understand the point. These .gov dorks seem to think everybody is rocking modern armor. How many dudes do you see in Ukraine wearing armor? What level is that armor?

Cannot defeat level IV plates.

Large size platform similar to the 308 AR.

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Is it possible you have a nitrided BCG?

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