billymagg

I DO like these tools, I love having the right tool for a job, and jigging that bolt straight is the hot ticket, although pushing the bolt into alignment wasn't all that tough...

Yep, hope it gets here soon, I did get the heavy KAK heavy spring under their ejector, I'm working on a buffer spring collection...

Yep, that's what I've got, sposed to be -7 tommorow overnight, taking Mollie and Arlie to the airport in St. Louis here shortly, she's looking forward to getting home to 73 degrees today in Tuscon, course she will miss her old man, and I will miss Mollie and Arlie, whom she named after my DAD, bless her heart...

Thank you my friend, I only learned of some of what my Dad was doing, when I was a Hospice Chaplain. Sitting with a retired school teacher's daughter, as she, the school teacher was passing. The daughter and I were chatting, when I related my Dad had passed from "multiple myeloma". She asked what he did, and I told her he was an Air Force Pilot. Then she did what no woman has ever done, she asked what did he fly?? when I said the C-130, She said I design radar for the C-130, I said "No you don't", she said "Yes, I Do!", and I asked why she was designing radar for a 50 year old at that time airframe??? she stated I design "terrain following radar". When I related that my Dad flew a 130 in Vietnam with terrain following radar, she said "That was the MC-130E Combat Talon 1",,, (at the time it was referred to as "Rivet Yard or Heavy Chain" in CIA nomenclature), she went on, "I am designing radar for the "Combat Talon II". I went home and sure enough, there was the "Blackbird" as my Dad called it... makes me cry thinking about it. One night at the farm before my Dad passed, I had been helping him, and my Mom had fixed steak and fried potatoes, as only she could, and my Dad had a book laying on the table, he passed it to me and said here, I want you to read this, this is a little bit about what I was doing in Vietnam. I believe it was John Plaster's book about MACV, it had a catchy title, I'll have to see if I can find it?? I've moved about 4 times since my Dad gave me the book! My Dad NEVER talked about any of that, I would occasionally over hear little bits and pieces if one of his flying buddies from the past came by the farm, but until he gave me that book, I had NO idea. Before he went to Vietnam, we went to Hurlburt for a two week transition into the C-123??? my DAD hated that airplane, but what I found out later researching, is that 4 of the Heavy Chain birds were at Hurlburt, 4 at Pope AFB, and 4 in Taiwan, my Dad had turned down a two year assignment to Taiwan before he went to Vietnam.. (my Mom did not want to move back to the Far East). So Thank you, my Dad was a very down to earth, humble, Patriot, a straight shooter, he started out as an Airman radio operator on the C-119, that chick on her very tough day, made my day, one of my best days in 5 years as a Hospice Chaplain, I had a lot of great days, and met some amazing people.. but I will never forget that day. your avatar bears a striking resemblance to the MACVSOG patch.

Actually the mid year 1964 model was still built by Raytheon, the 1967 early to mid year "Amana Radar Range" is also conducive to time travel, however after the TET offensive? (the real purpose of the TET offensive in early 1968 was to capture and spirit away the super Top Secret Amana Radar Range, in my Dad's office in the US Embassy in Saigon, MACVSOG's super secret headquarter's), my Dad was so pissed he had to drink cold coffee for the rest of his tour, he actually shaved his red mustache, and smoked 2 packs of Winston's a day... my Dad did indeed have a $100,000 bounty on his head, and he did indeed work for MACVSOG and fly the MC-130E in country! For those of you concerned, we were able to interdict and destroy that "AMANA RADAR RANGE" on its way back to Hanoi on the Ho Chi Minn trail by a team "Halo Dropped" to take it out!! You can now read about MACV, but this actually really true story about my DAD's cold coffee is really, really, true, but still classified!

Thank you! more questions to follow!

Ahhh yes, now I'm beginning to get the picture why no one has been dumb enough to start this thread,,,, but 98 you had a hell of a first day, and the answers where even better than the questions.... Now, back to the AR-10 carbine, was the buffer tube 7" or 7 5/8"s to start with? would Stoner have been responsible for Colt's carbine development?? and for you guys??? I'm thinking we need to hire a Redhead therapist for some of you gents, I didn't realize mental hospitals allowed their patients to populate .308 AR Forum??? guess that's why this place is so popular???

Will this is highly classified, and all I can whisper is, sssshhh Amana radar range, and only the mid year 1964 model, and do not, I repeat do not set that damn thing on HI! Sssssshhhhhh, 98 will fill you in on the details on the scrambler!

Springco orange buffer spring, Intermediate and Rifle length Wilson Combat gas tubes and gas rings... just spares for the tool box.

Okay, I'm shocked beyond words that nobody has posted this thread already! 98, the question is??? when did Eugene Stoner build the first AR-10 carbine, and what were the full specs?? buffer tube length, etc, etc... WARNING!!!! this could be a one off, or it could turn into a regular thang???? just depends on what his temperature is a the moment.......

Yes, Mollie and Arlie are headed back to Tuscon tomorrow, I'm sure she will be glad to get back home to Davis-Monthan AFB... I did shoot a couple of days this week, 12 to 14 degrees, left the truck running between magazines... I'm gonna miss those two here in Central Obamastan.

Yep!

Thanks 98, you are the real deal Bro, in the service of your country, thankful you have a heart to teach us grunts here on 308 AR Forum, and you've made me a big FAN of Mr. Stoner! he would be proud of you carrying on his work!

Awesome man, mine finally has enough gas to run XM80 ball reliably as well, these guys are the best, keep us informed, and don't leave jus cause your rifle's running, we're very happy to have you as a Brother here on 308AR.Forum!

That was an awesome piece of advice my friend, I had cut a 308 case and used it on the face of the bolt the other day, and that 45 case held the tail of the bolt in the vice, perfect so much easier to get it apart. Took my gas block roll pin punch, and held the ejector in on the door facing, dropped the pin punch in the hole and back to the vise to press it and drive the pin back in. So that really heavy KAK spring, is under the rounded KAK ejector, so now just waiting on 98's Sprinco Orange Spring,,, (wonder how many of those you have sold 98?? they should really give you a $3 commission on each one Bub... thanks Gent's, Little Miss Wilson says thanks.. I'll be back with a range report soon, second Covid shot tommorow, my main man is back up trying to help me type!

I'd just like the 308 to throw them 1/2 as far as that little 300 Ham'r, and good luck Fred, I would be happy if mine was throw empties 4 feet anywhere! so maybe you're not in to bad of shape, lol! I do have a Sprinco orange spring on order as per 98's suggestion,,, so we will see, my Grandson's here for parts of 3 more days, so I doubt I get back to the range either! hope we get a good range report from you, you will be pleased with your heavy buffer...

So Matt I probably should have listened to your advice, but I like to see those empties flying out of there, lol.

One and Done, Primary Arms has it, on its way!

Great advice Shooter! I will try to get that heavy spring under that ejector! my Grandson from Arizona is on my lap at the moment, and I'm sucking up every minute of him! he's named after my Dad and Donna's Dad, I swear the Lord gave us a supernatural connection! He's my favorite human on the planet and tuned in to the old buzzard!

Okie Dokie Chief! are they in stock anywhere at present?

Wilson Combat 18" Rifle gas, Wilson .750 adjustable gas block, gas tube is Wilson's 308 rifle tube, slightly longer than AR-15 tube, end of tube slightly past center or cam pin cut-out.. Wilson Combat BCG, ejector replaced with KAK industries rounded ejector this morning, the Wilson is round and square across the end with a light bevel milled around the top. Extractor as smooth as a baby's butt, metal tapered spring with donut, extractor has worked 100% Wilson Carbine buffer tube, 7" internal diameter, 40 coil flat wire buffer spring, KAK industries 2.5" 5.3 oz buffer,,, I've got lots of azz, so that will require plenty of gas. This rifle actually does function 100%, it may have had one or two "stove pipes"?? very early on... I'd like to see it kick them out at least 3 or 4 ft on a higher angle, ejection is much more positive. The Kak spring was maybe a 1/16" longer than the OEM spring, but I could not get a grip on the ejector to push it home, I need a concave pin punch, as it is, it was a challenge to get it all back together with two hands. on a high note 3 of the 4 rounds I fired this afternoon, were .5 MOA.... Winchester M80, Federal 150", and Hornady 150's The gas block is clean, and it works very well, I'm still running the block wide open??

Yes it should, my 18" fluted, Tactical Hunter was under gassed as well, and I found that out with M80 ball...

In the process of getting my small frame .30 to run, different magazines, springs, buffer's, ammo, once I went to the Lancer mags things began to shake out.. finally the 110's and 135's began to run, the 125's would feed and cycle on occasion,, through this all, I ended setting up two tarps end to end to capture the empties, very nice ejection, and fairly consistent as to where it was going to go... I decided to get the .308 out when I picked up some 149 gr Winchester White Box, I realized they were just crawling as far as ejection, usually bouncing off the truck hood about 6" to 12" inches and rolling off the front of the hood, it was cycling everything fine, but I realized every thing was lethargic.. so I assummed I'd just open up the gas block, it was about 1/2 way open, opened up my adjustable gas block, and NO real change, the gas port was around .82. Took my new cheap ass Chinese 3/32" drill bit, and attempted to cut through the "armor tough" around the gas port,,, it took a lot of oil, drilling, and checking, and about 10 minutes to get through that crap detail, but l finally made it, put all the good bits back together and checked my gas block alignment, spot on and clear.. back to the range, and?? no real improvement, would start running about 1/2 open, but further opening up the gas port made no difference. Next I went up to point .098, started to actually get some gas, but still not what I would like to see, I ordered the KAK's heavy 2.5" 5.3 oz Carbine buffer, ejector, spring, and roll pin.. in the meantime, I drilled up to .0995. Monday my Heavy Buffer came in, so I installed it, the 40 coil flat wire spring and ran out to the ranch for another range session, much better gas, but still bouncing off the truck hood... so this morning I popped out my old square top with a slight bevel ejector and installed the KAK ejector, I tried to use the new KAK spring its longer and very stiff, and stuck out of the bolt face far enough to make getting the new ejector in difficult... so I put the old spring in with the new ejector, much better function, but still bouncing off the truck hood? So, I'm going to take it up to .1015, and pull the bolt back down and get that heavy ejector spring in there somehow, I could live with it now, but its frustrating. I'm hopefull with the longer heavier KAK spring, and a little more gas, it will kick them out like it should... the extractor has a good looking spring and the donut, it is stiff and always, always, pulls them right out of the chamber.... even at .0995, I'm still running my gas block nearly wide open... I've been surprised reading all the threads on 308 ar forum with similar issues, and yes it is very, very wet, it runs amazing, except for weak ejection..and I took apart my adjustable gas block and hosed it out good, no obstructions at all.

OK, one more request,,, where is you history of the AR-10 and most particulary the AR-10 carbine as designed and built by Mr. Stoner!! I know I've read some of it here, but I can't remember where, but I'll try search first!

agreed, poor 98...