MtnMike

https://palmettostatearmory.com/norma-150-gr-softpoint-308-winchester-ammunition-20-rounds-2422029.html

So, a 20 MOA mount tilts the scope down (to raise the barrel angle up) twice as much as a 10 MOA? If I am understanding correctly. I actually started out as a math major decades ago ... obviously killed off those brains cells over the decades.

OK. Confessing my ignorance. What the difference between a scope mount with 20MOA vs 10MOA? I very rarely shoot at distances more than 150 yards. Pretty sure I read somewhere the Leupold has 20MOA built in. Also, in their defense the Leupold Mark AR mounts are made in the US and the one on my WW has been bullet-proof and never moved at all. They're held on with 5 bolts. Don't see any current discount for the VFZ mount at LaRue. The Leupold is currently $77 at Midway. 2 pieces of info I don't have: (1) Exactly -the height over mounting surface for the 30mm Leupold - not sure how this is measured and is that the same thing as ring height? Top rail to the center of the scope on my 1" version on my WW measures right at 1.5". Leupold specs the ring height for the 30mm version at 1.4". I've always been told that you want to go as low as possible - but obviously your objective lens needs to clear. (2) Anyone have any idea of the weight of the LaRue in its QD and/or VFZ configurations? Don't see this info on their webpage. Leupold is 5.8 oz. I try to keep my rifles and gear as light as possible w/o sacrificing ruggedness. QD does have some appeal. It might be nice to be able to use the same scope on multiple rifles. Now to sneak the newest black rifle into the house from the truck while the wife is still asleep ... once inside it should blend in unnoticed!

For the record - and because I think good customer service should be commended - Leupold got back to me in less than than 1 business day and informed me that the mount in question would work with the scope in question with 0.15" clearance. SO their support is still up and running like it used to! I did look at those LaRue mounts. Love their MBT-2 triggers. But their mounts are kind of pricey. Especially considering I rarely, if ever, remove a scope I'm happy with. $324 - That's a lot of bullets I can be shooting instead of biting!

Thanks for the input! I'll definitely look at the Athlon & LaRue mounts. I've also sent a question into Leupold Customer service. See if and how quickly they respond in the post-Covid world of scarce employees. And, I saw where Midway currently has some blem VX6 - 2-12x42 for a very decent discount. That's a damn fine hunting scope at $500 off. Trying to hold off on the scope purchase until the bank account has recovered from the rifle purchase (DD5v3). Already have a perfectly good rig setup for this Fall's hunting season.

I'm currently trying to determine what mount to use for a 3-15x56mm w/ a 30mm tube. Leaning towards trying the integrated Leupold Mark AR 30mm. I currently use the 1" version of this mount with a 1" tube 3-9 x 50mm on another AR 10 and there is about 6-10 mm of clearance - hard to measure accurately in the location of smallest clearance. Also, haven't figured out if the 1" (25.4mm versus 30mm scope/mount diameter) will be critical. Want it as low as possible - but don't it rubbing and like to use lens caps. Wondering what mounts others have used and like for similarly sized scopes.

After a year or so of ownership, upgrades and tweaking, I have to say I've got my Windham Weaponry SRC R16SFT-308 set up and working pretty much perfect for my needs. Just ordered a Daniel Defense DD5V3, which will be a very similar rifle. Kind of an impulse purchase. I'd been on their "notify me when in stock" list forever. And, every time in the past when they had sent me a notification it was "in stock" it had been out of stock by the time I'd checked the link. Probably should not have bought a gun that expensive that will largely be redundant. But as my wife as often noted, I am a sucker for marketing. I also like to support local companies, and they are located in the Carolinas (as am I). Wish me luck with by far the most expensive gun purchase I've ever made.

now, I've gone a done it ... wanted one, just to see if it's really all that. Of course now it'll need it's own scope. And, I'll probably end up replacing the trigger ...

Not just wives - daughters won't take advice from their dads either (at least mine). I actually would pay my most qualified buddy to give my daughter the exact information and training I could have given her for free. However, since the buddy was a "pro" and she knew the training was paid for, she'd listen and follow the training from him. Good news is that both daughters are now grown, out of the house and married to fairly decent fellows - and we all shoot well!

Very nice! Still contemplating entering the crossbow realm. Used to bow hunt. But my old Browning Explorer compound became obsolete, unsafe and unserviceable. Going to see how enjoyable and productive new hunting area in SC is this year before dropping the $ for the extra 4 weeks or so of season. Love the simplicity of the Excalibers. Love the cocking mechanisms of the Ravins. I'm 56 and quite fit at present, but aging is inevitable - main upside of the Ravin. Let us know how the 340 hunts!

@dpete Appreciate the link. I'll keep that in mind. I was unaware of that particular forum. With the Biden economy, I've cooled my jets on the crossbow for this season. Going to see how the new SC hunting digs pan out this year before dropping a bunch of $ for the extra 4 weeks of season. Buddy about 2 hrs away has approximately 50 acres basically only being hunted by himself and his youngest son. Cleared a bunch of undergrowth from 4 stand areas and put out a couple of salt blocks a couple of weeks ago. Going to plant a few clover patches in late summer ... hopefully it will be bountiful!

@shooterrex When opportunity strikes, have a few Franklins ready! Good deal!

https://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/d-50-lr-sr-gen-m3-pmag-50-rds-7-62x51-308-black-sku100035732-125121-232442.aspx Never hurts to be a bit more prepared for the EndoTimes Kerfluffle. And, it's on sale!

Leupold is my #1. Great glass. Great warranty & support. Usually lighter in weight than comparable scopes. Made in US. Vortex is my # 2. Good Glass. Good warranty. Great Support. Usually better value than comparable scopes. My 2 cents, and that's probably what its worth.

Saw that WW has just released a couple of slightly different variants of their 16" sfsct-308. New colors: battleworn black & burnt bronze; upgrades from base model include Magpul stock, for-end grip and metal MBUS sights, also the Yankee Hill flash suppressor instead of the A2 on the base. https://www.windhamweaponry.com/firearms/rifles/308-caliber-rifle/r16sfsct-308-bb/ I have been 100% satisfied with my WW sfst after a few upgrades of my own. Zero failures to fire or cycle after about 500 rounds with broad variety of ammo. Mine is primarily set up for deer hunting, but I still get groups under 1" with some soft tip lead bullets and target ammo. So if you are too lazy to put an AR10 together from pieces, or just want one that always works, you might want to check 'em out.

Toys for upcoming kayak fishing trip on Staunton river in VA, near Altavista (my old home town). Underspin Pflueger President Reel, Okuma Rod and a 2 kayak carrier - so the better half can join us if she wants. Hoping for the local trifecta: (striped bass, small mouth bass and a walleye). But mainly looking forward to spending time with old friends. Hate to say it but I think the only thing in that pic made in the US are the Bison straps.

@BrianKNot really planning on shooting in the backyard - although deer are common and frankly a nuisance eating both vegetables and the wife's flowers and plants. More of a whimsical thought. Can't imagine one actually dropping where it was shot, and we have been overrun with PETA immigrants fleeing California - probably call the cops and the local news on me in horror😬. That's why I go to SC and VA to hunt. I do however appreciate your concern!

Best upgrade I made to my WW R16SFST-308.

Toys for upcoming kayaking fishing trip on the Staunton River in VA. Hopefully get the local trifecta- a striper, a small mouth bass & a walleye. But it should be a good time regardless!

Starting the "soft sale" on the better half. Helps (the sale - not the bank account) that we're in the process of dropping $8K for a fence for "her" dogs - if the fence guy ever follows through on the installation. Probably be an after the 4th Holiday purchase. One of those things where you go in to look at one thing - Wicked Ridge Invader 400 ($600) - and go "this is pretty nice", then you pick up something else - Ravin r10 ($1300) -and go "but this thing is for me - this is the poop". Anyway, time to go fleece a couple of extra sheep over the next few weeks!

Made the mistake of talking a while with Dude from Sportsman's Warehouse & handling a Ravin R10 crossbow. Pretty f-in nice package. I'm starting to feel an itch ....

of course now that I start looking, I see (on paper) there are pretty competent hunting crossbows out there in the $400 range - with the price of red meat today - I think I can justify that - 2 deer would pretty much be a break even. And if I can catch one inside the dog fence so he is unlikely to run out into the HOA, might could get one on the down low without even traveling to my hunting digs .....

Which Excalibur do you have? 87 y.o father-in-law has a crank-cock Ravin with a scope that is a friggin' tack driver. Think the old-fart got 3-5 with it last year. You get almost an extra month of deer season with a bow in South Carolina. Had to retire my old Browning Explorer II compound a few seasons ago. Beautiful bow, but it had become unsafe and could not get replacement parts. Still would have to harvest a lot of meat to justify the expense of a good cross bow ... but life is short and toys bring joy!

Have a 75th Anniversary Hi-Power in excellent shape w/ 4 mags gathering dust in the safe I've been thinking of selling. Great shooter...just never do.

Think that's called a pick-up truck. I'll drive; We'll set you up in back 😁