Whos using a 16" AP4 .308 and what kind of distance can you get out of it?

[DEER HUNTER]

I have a new AP4 with a Trijicon 2.5-10-56 that I bought for deer hunting as well as SHTF.

But I was just curious what kind of range y'all are getting out of these badboys.

I zeroed mine at 200 yards with Hornady Whitetail 150 gr and 300 yards was a breeze.

I keep reading about this NOT being a good long distance rifle on the net but I'm pretty happy thus far.

I know it wont hang with my Classic 20 but im curious what kind of long range distances everyone is shooting?

[washguy]

Deer I dont have an Ap4,but all of my rainier 16" barrels shoot moa out to 500 yds using privi 168 match

my 18" shoots the same.....shorter is good! :) Wash

[DEER HUNTER]

I figure if it'll reach out to 500-600 yards I'm good with it. I just ordered a Geiselle SSA-E trigger for this rifle and my 6.5 Grendel.

I know for fact the Grendel will shoot 600 Yards, I've done it.

[DEER HUNTER]

I think the 18" is a better choice for distance shooting but I like the way the AP4 handles, especially in my tree stands.

Its a good 2.5lbs lighter then my 20" model and just much easier to maneuver in confined spaces. But its still a .308.

[BLKSHEEP]

I figure if it'll reach out to 500-600 yards I'm good with it. I just ordered a Geiselle SSA-E trigger for this rifle and my 6.5 Grendel.

I know for fact the Grendel will shoot 600 Yards, I've done it.

Are you referring to target or deer at that range? 600 yards would be about the max effective range on deer for the .308 , the Grendel about 400 yards using the 1000 ft.lbs. of energy rule.

[DEER HUNTER]

No I'm talking just reaching the distance accurately, best shot on deer for me with the Grendel has been 425, 600 on paper. Although I've read about guys taking deer further then that.

[EasyEJL]

what some people call long distance is different than what others do :) 600 is reachable out of a 16" with reasonable accuracy. its out to 800+ that becomes iffy with it

[DEER HUNTER]

what some people call long distance is different than what others do :) 600 is reachable out of a 16" with reasonable accuracy. its out to 800+ that becomes iffy with it

I'm not to 800 yet, but I'm working on it. I need a different scope for that.

[Robocop1051]

There's a very simple/generic math for most high caliber firearms. A 10.5" barrel is rated to be deadly out to +100 yards... round up, then add 1" to the barrel length for every 100 yards you intend to shoot to... 11"=100, 12=200, 13"=300 and so on.

Mind you, this is just to remain "deadly"...A short barrel is accurate well beyond its lethal range. It just won't do much, beyond poke holes in paper, at that point.

I knew I'd never shoot my .308 beyond 600 yards, so when I built it, I built it to maximize on its effective range. That allowed me to cut weight and streamline it accordingly.

[DEER HUNTER]

I agree, I knew when I bought this rifle the range would be limited for ethical kills. I was just curious what kind of experience everyone else had with the AP4. Thanks for everyone's input.

[mrmackc]

Back in the days of open sights longer barrels also meant longer distance between rear and frount sights(longer sight radius) which moved minute of angle further down range,hence a sense of longer range accuracy. Now more perfect optics and better mountings and more precise elevation and windage adjusting devices along with more precision machine rifle barrels have made shorter accurate rifle barrels possible.....IMHO.

Edited December 17, 2014 by mrmackc