survivalshop Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Facts: There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms. That is not disputed. What is never shown though is a breakdown of those deaths that would put them in perspective nor are they compared to other causes of death. 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons 3% are accidental discharge deaths. So technically, gun violence is not 30,000 annually but drops to 5100. Still too large? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation? 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington DC (a 54% increase over prior years) So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause. This basically leaves 3825 for the entire rest of the nation or about 75 per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1169. Alabama had 1. Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California of course but understand, it is not the tool (guns) driving this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. Now that you see not all cities and states are created equal and that there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths, how about in comparison to other deaths? Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault; all are done by criminals to victims and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That’s why they are criminals. But what of other deaths? 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide) Now it gets good: 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical malpractice You are safer in Chicago than you are in a hospital! 710,000 people die per year from heart disease time to stop the cheeseburgers So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focuses their attention on heart disease, a decrease in even 10% would save twice the lives annually of all gun related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in malpractice would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides. Simple, preventable, 10% reductions. So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It’s pretty simple. Taking away guns gives control to governments. This is not conspiracy theory; this is historical fact. Why is it impossible for the government to spill over into dictatorship? Why did the Japanese not even attempt to attack California in WWII? Because as they put it, there is a gun behind every blade of grass. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did. They too tried to disarm the populace of the colonies because it is not difficult to understand; a disarmed populace is a controlled populace. Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Oh, you mean the communists in the Soviet Union and the Nazis in Germany took guns away from the population? Oh yes, they did, din't they! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 And they did it exactly how the libtards are attempting it here, one little bite at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) On September 11, 2001, Islamic terrorists flew airplanes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing 2,996 and injuring more than 6,000. No guns were involved; reportedly, they used boxcutters to hijack the planes. That was not the first attack on the World Trade Center, though. In 1993, some Islamic terrorists tried to blow up the north tower, with the intention of making it fall into the south tower, so as to kill thousands of people. They made the mistake of parking the truck below a particularly strong section of the garage, so the north tower did not collapse as planned. They killed “only” six, but injured more than 1,000. Again, no guns were involved; the weapon was a fertilizer bomb. On April 19,1995, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols blew up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 (including 19 children and 3 pregnant women) and injuring more than 680. No guns were involved; the weapon was a Ryder rental truck loaded with diesel fuel and fertilizer. Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Trsarnaev killed “only” three people, but they injured/maimed/disfigured 264 others. Their weapons were two pressure cookers, containing homemade “kitchen table” explosives, ball bearings and nails. Way back in 1920, before there were Ryder trucks, somebody (“Italian anarchists" suspected) killed 38 and wounded 143 using a horse-drawn wagon loaded with dynamite and lead sash-weights. That made the Bombing of Wall Street the deadliest act of terrorism in the US since a disgruntled union organizer killed 21 and injured 100 by blowing up the Los Angeles Times building with a suitcase filled with dynamite -- in 1910. The Bombing of Wall Street had the highest casualty count until the Bath Elementary School bombing in 1927, in which 38 schoolchildren and 64 adults were killed (far worse than the Sandy Hook shooting). In an incident with some similarities to the Pulse club shooting, Julio Gonzalez killed 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in New York City, mostly Hondurans celebrating Carnival. Unlike Omar Mateen, Julio Gonzalez did not use a semi-automatic assault weapon with a high-capacity magazine. He used a plastic bucket with $1 worth of gasoline, and a match. People who want to ban guns (some guns or all guns) need to be careful what they wish for. They think that the basic economic Law of Substitution will lead psychos who cannot get guns to use knives or sticks or rocks or something less lethal. History shows otherwise. Psychos who don’t use guns kill and injure far more people than those who do use guns. They substitute things that are impossible to regulate, like gasoline, diesel fuel, plant fertilizer, household bleach, nails and pressure cookers. If, somehow, gun-regulators could confiscate every gun and “high-capacity magazine” in the country, mass violence would get worse, not better, because the substitutes for guns are fire and explosives. It sounds counter-intuitive, but when we hear about mass killings with guns, we probably should be thinking “Thank God they only used guns; otherwise it would have been much worse.” Edited June 16, 2016 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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