#@$#@ %#@^&^% PRIMERS!!!

[barrysuperhawk]

I just set off a primer in my press, twice in 3 hours, once in .45 and once in .308.  I have black specs on my forehead and on my glasses, and I cannot hear anything but this ringing noise....

A POX on any manufacturer that switches from large primers to small primers on brass that's SUPPOSED to be large primed.  I don't care what weasel reason they have, I don't care if it's cheaper or greener or if it makes an AK group subMOA at 1200 meters, it sucks and I hate it.  Especially PPU .308 and Federal .45ACP, the bastards.  It's not enough to have to sort for berdan priming and for crimped primers, now we have to look out for SMALL primers too? 

That's all I have.

[unforgiven]

Holy poop brother Barry good thing you had eye protection,want to start reloading wife saids I'll blow up house will make sure she doesn't see this glad your ok :o Shoot on bro.

[planeflyer21]

Glad you are okay!

That was a huge shocker, finding sp .45s in my lots.  I handprime and separate the smalls.  Didn't know they were doing it with .308s also.  Any other calibers we don't know about?

IMO it would be nice to only have once size on hand.

Jon

[survivalshop]

I think they make them for bench rest shooters or some thing like that.

I also hand prime all my brass . I like to feel the primer seat , in your case not seat or go in at all .

Glad you are OK .

[barrysuperhawk]

PPU .308 is the only SP .308 I have found, so far.

As far as benchres shooters I don't know, but searching around, there are posts on other forums about it being a cost saving measure, as in cheaper to do one size primers than two.

[planeflyer21]

I was discussing this with a reloading master of boom-zen.  We hypothesized that when primers for centerfire first came out, all they needed was large.  As time passed, and cases for smokeless powder got smaller and smaller, they needed a pygmy primer.  So now we have two sizes.

Certainly they can get the spark hot enough with a small primer to ignite the hardest to light powders.

Jon

[Tripledeuce]

I was discussing this with a reloading master of boom-zen.  We hypothesized that when primers for centerfire first came out, all they needed was large.  As time passed, and cases for smokeless powder got smaller and smaller, they needed a pygmy primer.  So now we have two sizes.

Certainly they can get the spark hot enough with a small primer to ignite the hardest to light powders.

Jon

  Actually, its not possible for the small primer to ignight large quanties of powder.

  Federal had to come out with a "special", that has now become "standard" for the large british cases.

  The small primers in 308 came out of the benchresters desire for it befor  brass was  available for the BR ctgs, and they had to be formed from std 308. An inch and a half case takes a lot less powder than a std 308.

  Federal once made a small run of 30-30 brass with small primers, again, for the BR crowd.

    Boy!!!  I wish I still had some of those 30-30 cases.  They really did make a difference with some of the wildcats!

    Respectfully

    Terry

[planeflyer21]

Cool, Terry!  I did not know that about the British Boomers.

I'll pass that along.

Jon