Flat tops and permanent and/backup iron sights

[98Z5V]

[AngelDeVille]

6 minutes ago, 98Z5V said:

You need to finally say EXACTLY what you are building, this far into the thread.  What are you building, Angel?

I sez in my first post..

This is my matrix aerospace ar10. 
 

all armalite internals but with a modified lr308 bolt catch. 

takes whatever the magazines that aren’t the fubared m1a ones…

in .22mag…

Edited January 10, 2025 by AngelDeVille

[98Z5V]

1 hour ago, AngelDeVille said:

I sez in my first post..

This is my matrix aerospace ar10. 
 

all armalite internals but with a modified lr308 bolt catch. 

takes whatever the magazines that aren’t the fubared m1a ones…

in .22mag…

Nope - you never mentioned that in your first post, brother.  Not in the least.  Here's your first post in this thread:

On 1/4/2025 at 8:30 PM, AngelDeVille said:

On the AR platform I greatly prefer the ar15/m16 A1. 
 

but due the the nature of advancement in firearm technology I currently have 3 (three) flat tops

my new FX9 has a decent red dot (primary arms) and for backup irons a magpul front folding and an Matech Air Force flip up rear. (Have a few of these)

My 300 blackout has the same red dot and a set of non folding Troy sights (supposed to be scar type sight picture) two aperture flip on the rear like an A1

Now we come to my AR10

I have been happy enough with the 4-14 primary arms scope 

Here lieth the problem, I would love to just have M1A type iron sights on it. 
 

I have a fixed Troy AR front sight on the AR10 and I do like it  

I also have the matching folding rear Troy, with the same flip aperture as the other Troy/A1 style.

I would like more precision for this caliber. 

The Matech Air Force sight has the precision, but I’m mildly afraid it is too delicate for primary sight use. 

maybe I would be happy keeping the glass on it and using 45* offset sights? (I’d hope not to spend $300 on these)

maybe I would just like a carry handle with a QUALITY A2 sight?

I know irons aren’t the popular choice but what are my options?

I shoot irons effectively at 500-800 yards and can do 1,000 if I keep in practice. 
 

The pics of the Matech if anyone hasn’t seen them. 
 

it’s a great sight calibrated to the 5.56 round. 
 

 

[AngelDeVille]

On 1/4/2025 at 9:30 PM, AngelDeVille said:

Now we come to my AR10

I have been happy enough with the 4-14 primary arms scope 

Here lieth the problem, I would love to just have M1A type iron sights on it. 
 

I have a fixed Troy AR front sight on the AR10 and I do like it  

I also have the matching folding rear Troy, with the same flip aperture as the other Troy/A1 style.

I would like more precision for this caliber. 

The Matech Air Force sight has the precision, but I’m mildly afraid it is too delicate for primary sight use. 

maybe I would be happy keeping the glass on it and using 45* offset sights? (I’d hope not to spend $300 on these)

maybe I would just like a carry handle with a QUALITY A2 sight?

I know irons aren’t the popular choice but what are my options?

 

 

[Albroswift]

29 minutes ago, AngelDeVille said:

I have a belt sander, chop saw and some job weld. 

RRA on a DPMS...

 

Edited January 10, 2025 by Albroswift

[AngelDeVille]

17 minutes ago, Albroswift said:

RRA on a DPMS...

 

I imagine I could live with that…

[AngelDeVille]

So this is the offending ar10…

I discovered yesterday that my 25 round magpul magazines will NOT seat unless I only load them with 24 rounds, I haven’t tried the 20 round ones to see if they seat with 20 or 19 rounds… not sooper happy about that… I do believe I have only ever used the metal-enhanced magazines before…

The front fixed ar style sight

rear backup sight, useless in an emergency….

Edited January 10, 2025 by AngelDeVille

[Rsquared]

12 hours ago, AngelDeVille said:

rear backup sight, useless in an emergency….

 

That's why I use QD mounts on my optics. Something fails, just pop it off and flip up the BUIS. And I've gone to using Yankee Hill spring loaded back-ups. But they don't make a 45 degree like you've been looking for.