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That's unbearable. I ended up shooting mine in the pouring rain for the first time lol!

I've heard CMMG doesn't play well with others. Why not get a matched Aero upper? Aero's 16" SS barrel upper with 13" keymod rail is around $600 i think? I got mine on sale for $530. Not sure if that CMMG one you linked comes with a BCG and CH. If it doesn't, it's not a great deal. If it does, it's just average price. You can get better parts piecing it together for around the same price. . I have right at $950 in my upper with a Gunfighter charging handle, Cryptic Coatings BCG (which is amazing) and a VG Precision Gamma muzzle brake. If you get on Aero's mailing list, they have sales on all the parts pretty often it seems. I just finished an Aero M5 build and it runs perfectly.

It would be good to headbutt someone maybe? I prefer my motorcycle helmet for that though....

Federal gold match is the standard by which most ammo is judged it seems. I broke mine in with PMC as it's much cheaper and groups ok. There is a link to some nicely priced Barnes TSX ammo in the past few days too. I ordered five boxes to try.

DD is quality stuff. I have one of their blackouts.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RAMUV9SqdY4J:www.primaryarms.com/VG6_Precision_Gamma_7_62_5_8x24_High_Performance_M_p/gamma762.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us $82 at PA, they have 10-20% off muzzle devices pretty often. Not all muzzle devices are created the same. There aren't many muzzle brakes and compensators that 'understand' proper high-pressure gas dynamics. The VG6 GAMMA 556 was designed using state of the art engineering techniques, utilizing CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) and CAE (Computer Aided Engineering). 100% CNC machined for optimal performance. Stainless steel construction for longevity. VG puts a ton of engineering into their stuff.

yeah yeah, just funny, that's all. Ammo seems like quality stuff. Anyone have experience on how it groups ?

That's a good point, probably should have gone 2-3 star. You can never have too many mags. Especially with Hitlery running for prez....

Hard to take that ammo box seriously but i had to order a few boxes at that price to give it a try,. thanks!

Aero had their NiB 308 BCG for around $200 last week i think. I would say the SSA-E is one of the best in the two stage category if that's the type trigger you prefer. I love a two stage for long range shooting but others don't. You can score it for $192 on sale from Primary Arms a few times per year. I'm always hesitant to say a certain product is "the best" because it's all a little subjective. I would really encourage you to look at muzzle brakes. The VG was about $80 on sale. I shot it with/without it and there is a huge difference, especially for follow up shots. Have fun with the build and keep us posted.

Mmmmm tannerite...

yeah, it's weird. I'm tough like that. I mean, I paid full price for a product expected to be in new condition, instead it arrives with drips, clumps and runs in the finish. Brownells takes 5 days to answer emails and only responds after i post a negative review. I guess i could've gone 2 stars. If it ever posts, ill change it. I don't mind using my stuff hard (just look at my motorcycle, kayak etc but when i buy it new, i expect it new. heck, my Aero rifle i just built, actually shot it in the pouring rain for its inaugural shoot, of course a detailed cleaning followed.

I get what you're saying, i like a nicely worn mag too but these are just poorly finished. Like they paid a kindergarten class to brush on some rough finish by hand. It reminds of one of those coatings you would buy from home depot and brush on.

So brownells was dragging around on answering emails. I called them this morning and they hmm hawed around and said they would exchange them. Then i got an email in response to my 1 star review of the mags. Apparently they screen reviews and don't post them if they're negative since mine still hasn't appeared after posting it last week. Ill just exchange them i guess. Their 556 mags are nice. Hopefully it was just the first batch. Mine are stamped 11/14.

reminds me of this clown... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/21/anti-gun-senator-is-being-mocked-relentlessly-after-he-warned-of-30-caliber-clip-in-embarrassing-video/ or http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/04/03/as-lead-sponsor-in-house-on-gun-legislation-rep-diana-degette-appears-to-not-understand-how-they-work/93506/

Joe, I would add that I spent a few evenings reading about AR10s/parts compatibility first. I chose to get my LPK (Lower parts kit) from the same manufacturer as my lower so i didn't have any issues there. After doing my own now and looking back at a lot of the info i read, i think most of those people just threw stuff together. Do your research and buy parts from a reputable company. If you aren't in a hurry, get on some mailing lists for Aero, Primary Arms etc. They have sales at Labor Day, Memorial Day, Thanksgiving, Fourth of July, Black Friday, Christmas etc. You can probably save $200-400 on a build by getting parts on sale. As far as "lock back on empty" goes, some of the issues were from people not running an Aero LPK (parts are a smidge different), i also ran a standard AR10 buffer, spring and buffer tube. I will go to a JP silent capture spring in the future but wanted to start with a factory outfitted AR10 to make sure there weren't any issues. People often throw a gun together with different gas tube/barrel lengths, AR15 buffer tube, AR10 spring, who knows what buffer then they wonder why it isn't running right. There are endless options for springs and buffer weights. I really recommend going with standard/factory stuff first then modding in the future from there. If you have any questions, I did a ton of research and it's all fairly fresh. Happy to review my parts list and why i chose each part with you. My goal was a 400-600 yard consistent gun, eventually stretching to 800 as my skill improves. Very happy with the Aero stuff for its quality, price and accuracy. Hopefully my Feddy gold match will be in soon. I'm going to run another 100 rounds of PMC before nailing down with the gold match.

You can always buy a pre-assembled upper. Your tool list is the complete/every tool possible list if building the upper too. Most people can get by with basic house tools if just doing the lower and still save money versus buying a complete gun or build a nicer gun for the same price if they just assemble the lower. My Aero upper with 13" free float handguard and SS barrel was $530 i think. Just slide in your BCG and charging handle. Yeah, i think in the old days, sure, you were starting off on something without any knowledge or being show how to but with youtube and all the resources available online now... it's too easy! Ask around, everyone is happy to help, watch videos etc. There is virtually nothing different on assembling an AR10 lower versus AR15, just buy your LPK from the same manufacturer as the lower so there isnt an issue. I dont get why everyone is acting like it's rocket science to put an AR together. My first one, i scrounged tools together, taped off my pliers for the roll pin starting, used the round end of a drill bit to put the take down detent pins in. Most lowers have threaded bolt catch pins anyway now. That was the only hard roll pin. Plus decent lowers don't even have a trigger guard roll pin. If it's not for you, that's fine but it's really not complicated especially if you check a few youtube vids to see the basic process. You shouldn't need a single special tool for a lower besides a castle nut wrench ($7 on amazon), detent pin tools are nice to have ($10 on amazon) but not necessary.

Yeah, Id like to hear how it shot. Mine started off a little rough.

Thanks for saying what i was going to say. Putting a lower together takes about as long as hooking up a DVD player if not less time. We aren't building a car from the ground up. I could give you a list of DIY things that are harder than assembling a lower. The rest of the assembly is stuff you would have to DIY to clean it later on anyway, it's not remotely like swapping an engine. I hate to sound like a jerk but if you can't assemble a lower... How do you clean your gun? i know different strokes for different folks but cmon. watch a few youtube vids, get a beer and put it together. You feel like a MAN after sipping your beer, probably lost a detent spring once or twice but you're holding YOUR gun. You're like a gun god. Plus, you can spend about the same money as buying a box gun and get some really nice upgrades like trigger, BCG and muzzle brake. Those three mods alone make shooting sooooo much more enjoyable (well BCG is just nice to clean) especially on a heavier caliber.

Yeah, i mean, it would be terrible to wait like a few days for the best parts to arrive so you have an enjoyable, slick shooting gun for a lifetime compared to going out buying a bone stock, base model gun right now for the same price. I mean i get your point but if I'm dropping $1500+, i can wait a few days to do some research, make the best decision for my needs and get the right stuff for the long term... but that's just me. If you're a "gotta have it right now" guy, then yes, that's a great point. I did all my research over a few days, placed all my orders in one day and was out shooting less than ten days later. It would've been sooner but i was out of town for work and had to get my lower from my FFL. As far as assembly goes, i mean the only thing you have to assemble really is the lower. Most uppers can come complete. Just hop on the ole youtube machine or throw up a post in a local gun forum and half a dozen people will offer to help.

AR10s are heavy in general. If you're wanting something lighter, definitely steer clear of the recon. You can watch any youtube video on how to assemble an AR lower. If you can change oil in a car, you can do it. Aero has the weights listed on their site Im sure. I dont have a scale at my house accurate enough to weigh it. My only point was that for the same price as a new DPMS, you can build a helluva a lot nicer gun with some great upgrades that you will really appreciate on the range or in the field.

I haven't ran any gold match yet. I can't remember what the reviews were, there weren't many. Could've been minor stuff like bcm charging handle fitment. My groups tightened up with each magazine. Hope to run more soon. For what I have in it. Pretty happy with the groups.

Didn't think I would like the black lower with fde upper but it looks awesome. Nice job.

Why are you stuck on the DPMS?. I built an aero 16". SS barrel for less than $1600 with an amazing Giessele SSA-E trigger, super slick cryptic coatings BCG, BCM charging handle, Magpul stock, VG Precision Gamma muzzle brake.

You definitely do not want the bull barrel. Especially on these heavy ass guns.