Hotwrench

98, Let's start over. I looked back at this thread, I didn't spot anyone saying your plan would be a good idea. I saw several that disagreed, none as in your face as my comments. I guess that is why I drew your fire. I do not believe this country should ever agree to gun registration of any type . We remain a country that is divided almost 50/50 on this and many more issues. The only possible solution that I see lies with our community educating and communicating to the other side. I doubt we will achieve a large change, the other side is just as entrenched as we are. The goal is to not let the situation get any more one sided. Set an example for the antis. Show them a responsible gun owner, do more than talk, be responsible. This is not aimed at you. Just because I don't think your plan is a good one doesn't mean I have a better one than the one jtallen83 put forward. This is as he said is a social problem. The Texas shooter should not have had access to his Dad's guns, I have reviewed my storage procedures as I am hoping everyone here has. The problem would be more reliably solved with education than legislation. jtallen83's plan isn't sexy, it doesn't offer instant gratification, but it does offer a roadmap. If a majority of the country votes in a Democrat for President there will still be the Constitution and a whole lot of common citizens that are willing to uphold the oath they took. As jtallen83 said "I will continue to promote this approach as I fill out range cards.............." As an addition to what jtallen83 offered look at this web site for inexpensive copies of the Constitution. https://nccs.net/collections/pocket-constitution

Sorry I misspoke. I don't need more government. See jtallen83's item 4. "4. Be consistent. Getting government back to its roots means smaller government so don't call for getting government out of the second on one hand while demanding they pass more regulation to fix another problem on the other hand. Don't forget that government is incompetent in nearly everything they do, they simply cannot fix problems, only we can do that.

jtallen83, I have done the things that are on your list . I encourage others to do the same. They are the ways law abiding citizens can affect change I have in the past attended the Virginia House Committee and sub Committee meetings that pertained to gun rights and spoke when I thought I could be helpful. The main things that I learned in these meetings are that the anti crowd yells a lot and there are unintended consequences generated by every new piece of legislation. Some of these unintended consequences really are intended but hidden. I can not imagine any gun registration scheme that won't lead to confiscation. There is a good reason that it is currently illegal for the Federal Government to keep a list of gun owners and what they own. I can't say they follow the law, but it is in place for a reason. There are also good reasons the founders wrote the Constitution the way they did, they had seen first hand the results of loosing Liberty to a tyrant. I am told that the founders and their supporters only made up 3% of the colonial population. With that small citizen group they built a nation we can be proud of, that is if we follow their guidelines. Your comments are to the point and helpful. and like you said this is a cultural problem and unlikely to be solved by government action. "My hope is this method can return true Liberty to this great nation, sadly I am very skeptical it can be accomplished this way as we are so far down the road of a godless one world government. I will continue to promote this approach as I fill out range cards.............." 98, I hear that you believe you have a good idea. I will never willingly give up my Liberty in the manner you ascribe to. I don't have a need for an sbr or full auto and can only see that plan leading to more opportunities for bad laws to be written just to gain range toys, Liberty is too serious a matter. I do not claim to have the answers, I have lived long enough to know a bad idea when I hear it. At the risk of being called down why don't you ask Magwa how trusting the government to keep its word has worked out. By the way I read your quoted article but not this last set of posts, I hear yelling, yelling in my experience means you are out of ideas. Try jtallen83's approach, quite discussion, Airborne leads the way!

Thank you, good clear thinking. We may not have "the" solution but at least we won't make things worse.

Oh I almost forgot, didnt the latest idiot use a revolver?

First : I am from the government and I am here to help. Second: Now that you have your semi auto registered, how about your pump and lever action, now your revolvers and bolt actions........heres a few bucks turn them all in. Compromising only works when both sides give some, so far it has been totally one sided. Cite an example where we got anything in return for what we gave up. Third : Why keep blaming the inanimate object? He may have a point about every record being available on the internet but lets try keeping our oath to uphold the Constitution. Lets remember due process. The constitution has everything covered, follow it. Shall not infringe, pretty clear language, get rid of the infringements that are already on the books and punish the law breakers, not publicize their exploits. Unpass a bunch of useless laws, even law enforcement has a difficult time staying legal due to ambiguous and contradictory laws. Above all lets remember millions of Americans didn't hurt anyone today, don't punish them. Don't put them closer to confiscation with yet another list I can see that you want to "do something " and I applaud that you are trying, however giving the current crop of mostly self serving politicians more power is going to backfire. Don't forget that gun rights have not advanced even under the current administration, even if he claims to be a staunch 2A supporter. Finally, as Jerry Garcia said, "when you pick the lesser of two evils, you still pick evil." How about we start over and actually drain the swamp and start over with fresh water?

T This link is from Quora in answer to the question, "Why does the 2nd Amendment bother Euripeans so much?" I could never put it so well and it seems to apply here, please take the time to read it and apply it to the Australian idea being discussed here. https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-2nd-Amendment-bother-Europeans-so-much/answer/Bradley-Dunkin?share=06d21625&srid=uVkz3

The only thing I can say to that is in Australia the right to self defense was enshrined only in tradition. I America it is enshrined in the Constitution as being granted by the creator. Not to say it can't happen here but it is less likely. Reference the bumpstock ban in Connecticut with a total of 3, count them three bumpstocks turned in. In New Jersey 0 count them zero. Look at the "assault rifle" registration in New York with somewhere around 10% compliance.

That's why I'm all over the idea of the Federal Semi-auto license idea. It's a ZERO COMPROMISE situation, from OUR standpoint - legal gun 98, I hope you have had time to think that over.

Character building? I thought it was fun, a reward for not misbehaving. One thing is for sure my son never had nearly as many opportunities since he (poor thing) was raised in the 90's and the blighted era that followed. I guess if he had been strapped into the door gunners position on a Huey I would be in prison now. If he had been allowed through the gas house we would all be in prison. On the other hand it taught me that I didn't want to join the protests with Hanoi Jane, you just don't get better a better learning opportunity than that.

I had that "opportunity" at the advanced age of 13 with the Civil Air Patrol in about 1965. We also were "forced" to go through the Vietnam familiarization course, fire an M-1, and fly in a Huey. It makes me wonder how I survived all that "trauma". By the way we didn't have anyone standing by to waterboard us but we did get to go to the showers later. It is a wonder any of us lived through the horror of being a kid in the 60's. Damn I wish I could do it again.

I hope that you can find a gun friendly venue to post on. Some of us don't YouTube since their very unfriendly gun policy was announced. I don't spend money or go where guns are not allowed.

I got curious and tried to google stress card. I am happy to report that I was passing on pure unadulterated bull.

I don't know for sure but I am told that the Marines have a time out card in basic now.

bfoosh006 , I followed your link and this sort of jumped out at me, This warranty is transferable for the serviceable lifetime of the firearm or part. Modification of firearm will void this warranty. It looks like a different gas block could cause problems with the warranty. I have to wonder how the phrase "serviceable lifetime" is defined as well.

A screen grab from Facebook: Don't forget Youtube: Policies on content featuring firearms YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that: Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds). Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities. Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications. Report content that violates this policy You can report videos that you believe violate this policy by flagging the video. ---------------------------------------------------- Of course almost any video that an anti gunner doesn't like will be flagged, maybe Hickock45 inserts a magazine, or someone shows how to stone a trigger.

I don't intend to hi jack your post but these links might explain my comment. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/04/daniel-zimmerman/youtube-bans-firearm-content-while-leaving-hundreds-of-bomb-making-videos/ Or this, by no ones friend Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-21/youtube-bans-firearm-sales-and-how-to-videos-prompting-backlash I also don't think Facebook will let you post those videos : https://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2018/04/24/facebook-announces-new-community-standards/

Is you tube really a good idea? They have an anti gun agenda that is getting worse. I along with everyone I know in the actual world don't visit them. I believe Full Thirty or another gun friendly host might be better. Why support those that don't support us? Just my .02.

Sounds like you had a good experience. Pass the knowledge please.

I have to say thanks Josiah. I ordered an AR15 upper, it arrived quickly and it looks good. Maybe y'all are going to get it all together. I look forward to doing more business with your company.

Another image from Virginia's 2A rally.

I have to wonder how much longer YouTube will leave the video up.

Virginia had about 250 attend the nationwide 2A rally at the State Capitol in Richmond. The weather was fine and the crowd well behaved even though small. The speakers said the things you should expect from a Constitutional point of view. Did any of you attend your states rally?

So what I hear - it's ok to violate the 2nd just don't inconvenience me. And since I have this much attention and no functional mind.... do whatever falls out of my mouth.

Think, "slippery slope" with the 2nd sliding down it, faster and faster, untill is gone.