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Phantom30

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  1. IR and two color lasers. For longer range stability the QD bi-pod and stock sock under pistol grip.
  2. I do get it MIL MIL or MOA MOA is easier when you are working within the same scale system, very valid point. However, when you understand the only thing that matters is how many clicks are needed in any correction, then you can recover the simplicity with a MIL MOA and have the benefits of both. The classic MIL reticle for traditional range estimation and the more precise MOA turrets. May be I should say it this way. I have a Click reticle with click turrets so I have a Click Click scope. When I look at the reticle I see tick marks that each have a value of 7 clicks. My holdover range is 70 clicks on the reticle. My elevation limit is + 280 clicks on the turrets. There are 60 clicks per turret revolution. The value of a click is .251 inches at 100 yards. So a Click Click Scope is within the same scale system. And that's how you get cost effective utility out of a "junk" scope IMHerO
  3. My original picture is not what I should have used the reticle image is for a 12.5 power setting not the normal 25 power. Below is the proper pairing.t .
  4. It may have to do with the barrel extensions being either M4 or LR308, either way I don't think they match up with the Creedmoor distance between the tip and shoulder. May be 98Z5V has experience with that, but it is even worse with 6mm Creedmoor where the bullet is even thinner allowing it to fall deeper into the feed ramp.
  5. OK if I am using my reticle shown above and I measure the shot at one mil off as you say, I would say that's two tick marks which is 14 clicks. When you look at it in terms of tick marks with a know separation in clicks then its easy. The adjustment is clicks not MOA. MOA is just the scale value which you can skip over thinking about.
  6. This is the range evidence for what I was talking about in terms of chambering affected concentricity. Heartbeat problems on the S&B rounds, old guy hard to slow it down anymore.
  7. First of All, I prefer the MIL/MOA scope, it is the better choice, cheaper and more accurate. Let me explain IMHO. The Clarity and cleanness of the reticle is important. You don’t want a lot of cutter trying to help you with range calculations. The MIL Dot reticles have been a military standard for a long time. The techniques for using that reticle type for range estimation can be investigated at these links. http://www.millettsights.com/resources/shooting-tips/ Multiple topic at the Millett site all relevant to choosing a scope. The image below shows the precision of measurement in a Millett reticle. Nerd Math lets us compare recommended scopes. 140 MOA is 40.7 mils of correction. You have an AP AR so you rail is flat no MOA bias. So all the correction limits are scope based. If your 6.5CM is using Hornady 147gr ELD-M, with a 22” barrel your typical supersonic range limit will be around 1650 yards on a standard day. Notice that the max range correction is 71.6 MOA or 20.8 MILs. If you want a scope the give you this capability you need to have that level of performance. The problem with cited turret elevation values is they don’t reflect the fact that half the value is usually available after mounted and zero. So a 28 MIL elevation scope only has a + 14 MILs or a 140 MOA scope has + 70 MOA or 20 MILs. To squeak out maximum range performance you need a scope that will do that without reverting to holdover techniques. A MOA turret scope has more sensitive corrections. A 1/10th MIL click is 0.36 inches at 100 yards, while a 1/4th MOA click is 0.251 inches. The key here is that corrections are measured in CLICKS not MILs or MOA. When you think of it like that all the six digit math is reduced to simple integers. As shown below. The clean reticle example has the click values overlaid that is all you need to remember. Each tick mark is 7 clicks on this second focal plane reticle set at 25 power. There is a one click round off adjustment at 35 clicks but you can compensate of ignore it. Reading the reticle in terms of ticks whether bars of dots and determining the adjustments in clicks make math simple. Therefore, the preferred MIL/MOA scope more accurate and simpler to use for range estimation and adjustments. Finally the cost, the lower cost higher performance choice So The more accurate, lower cost choice would be the ADE. in MIL/MOA
  8. Sellier and Bellot 140gr FMJBT is the most cost effective and reliable tactical ammo, if you don't mind shooting Euro trash now owned by a Brazilian company. Never bother with anything that has a soft tip in an semi-auto. Like Hornady white tail SP. Maintaining concentricity is the ammo side of accuracy. Even ELDs and BTHPs will deform slightly from contact with the feed ramps or the chamber counterbore. Even a slight ding will open the group. Federal Fusion seems to hold even with its funky tip. The ding does not manifest all the time but I would bet on a flier in one in ten. The S&B 140 has a G1BC at .548 and is supersonic out to 1300 yards. The best factory ammo is the Hornady 147gr ELD-M with a G1BC .697 supersonic out to 1650 on standard conditions, using 22" barrels. So you give up some performance with the S&B but reduced flier potential. Hope this helps.
  9. Well I would have recommended a Millett LRS-1 with 1/10 Mil turrets but they stopped making them, so this clone was a close as I could get.
  10. So correct, my search skills must really suck, so I bought an AP carbine kit and the spring length is 11.5" with 26 twists. Installed today and the rifle functions as expected. Therefore, I have confirmed the obvious, that the DPMS LR308 carbine receiver extension kit is not compatible with the AP M5 lower and of course the AP carbine kit is. Once again you are right.
  11. If you want long range at a reasonable price, how about a 6-25 x56 MIL dot second focal plane reticle. https://www.amazon.com/Ade-Advanced-Optics-6-25X56-Illuminated/dp/B00CUOLXFU/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ade+long+range+scope&qid=1550858428&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-1 This is basically a Millett clone LRS-1 guts in a TRS-1 tube. It has the 140 MOA turrets which you will need to get the crosshairs on 1650 yards with Hornady 147gt ELD. It comes the 6 screw 2000g rings and the its $238
  12. Well it doesn't work so, did I get the wrong spring in the kit. 10.5" long, about 2mm thick wire 36 twists. mounted in an AP M5 receiver set with Tool craft NiB BCG, 2.5" 3.5oz buffer
  13. Just unpacked the Condor case and to confirmed it does have the dual gun partition and dual padded back pack type straps as well as the sling. So far looks like a good valve.
  14. Well OK, my daughter gives me CTD gift cards for Christmas that's my only business there, so I'll have to tell her they are no longer on the nice list and are now on the naughty list thanks
  15. Wow the wrath of 98Z5V, haven't felt that for almost a month. Thanks. Well anyway the Optic Planet deal for the condor was good enough for me to order one for myself this morning before I go to the range. Hope that didn't upset anybody. Should I draw a neck under the target dot and shoot for that?
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