survivalshop Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 This deserves watching for an outcome . http://news.yahoo.com/milwaukee-gun-store-sued-for-supplying-guns-to-criminals-165403308.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I, as a FFL dealer, was sued after I sold a pistol to a man who, a year later, used the pistol to shoot 8 people killing 5. After proving the transfer was approved by the FDLE and FBI the suit was dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Thing is , this ATF form , the" I'm not the original buyer "was checked , so they say . Even in my day , before the back ground checks , I'm not I would have sold the firearm to this person . I'm not even sure that question was on the ATF form back then . That may make or break this case . I can't help but feel sorrow for the LEO's shot & what they have been through . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 They answered question 1 with a no? Transfer should have never happened then. Definitely a problem for the FFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) I can imagine some hood gun store helping shady people be shady. I recently read about one up in VA that has a suspicious ratio of criminal guns being traced back to them. those places need to be burnt to the ground figuratively and literally. the problem is the precedent that the grabbers will seize and twist against the good guys. once lost, those inches are all but impossible to get back. that's why 2nd amendment advocacy needs a zero compromise approach. Edited April 15, 2015 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perpetualwhitebelt Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 once lost, those inches are all but impossible to get back. that's why 2nd amendment advocacy needs a zero compromise approach. That is an awesome way to put it and a great negotiation strategy. We agree to safety and integrity if 'the people' can agree to let us have our rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 They answered question 1 with a no? Transfer should have never happened then. Definitely a problem for the FFL. It is alleged that the straw buyer and real purchaser entered together, the ineligible person picked the gun, and the straw buyer bought it. Block #1 was reportedly checked no, but they are claiming the dealer conspired with the straw buyer to change the answer to "yes", i.e., claiming that the straw buyer was the real purchaser. If it turns out that's correct, they oughta torch the place....and the shop owner. This kind of crap is not only illegal and wrong, it hurts all of those magnificent legitimate gun dealers we all know and love and depend on to supply our neeeeeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I've seen plenty of coworkers halt sales when any box was incorrectly checked. Makes for some upset people, some just shrugged it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I think it goes to show you , there are some really stupid people out there . I can see someone check it by accident , but what criminal idiot checks it on purpose ! Then , if true , the idiot dealer or hired help , tried to talk him into changing it , knowing he was a straw buyer ! I think someone is BS'ing someone , the Perp's are trying to get something out of this or , there are people behind the scenes trying to put the hurt on a honest FFL . Hard to tell . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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