EasyEJL Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 They machined 3000 lowers without serializing them, and their reason was extra stupidStag Arms apparently admitted keeping un-serialized lowers on hand in case a serialized lower was damaged. They apparently did so, so that they could then simply destroy the damaged lowers (without having to do additional paperwork) and put that serial number of the lower receiver on one of the un-serialized receivers.http://bearingarms.com/stag-arms-raided-atf-stupidity-criminal-enterprise/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Doing it...good thinking. Getting caught/talking about it...not so good. Funny I was just thinking about this the other day when I saw someone selling an M16 lower for some astronomical price. I was thinking how it would suck to damage or wear out a $15k lower, and thought it might be a good idea, although illegal, to build an identical 80% lower and use it and lock the original away in a deep dark hole. Edited May 19, 2015 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Seriously though, how many do they screw up that they keep 3000 unserialized around?If you want to have spares around you could run machining to 80%ers and leave them like that. The final machining doesn't take much longer than the engraving of a serial, and at least that's legal :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolndie7 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 the US Bureau of engraving and printing does something similar with a "star note" but I guess you really cant put a star in your firearms serial number lol. Maybe a -NFG or a -FU haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 They said the employee that did the numbering was on vacation <laughs> How did the Fed's know he had all those un-documented Lowers ? An inspection ? I used to buy Select fire Lowers for & 165.00 back in the early 80's . <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 They were doing an audit and found them, let stag know, and then came back a week later to check and they still weren't serialized. morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Easy...THAT GUY WAS ON VACATION. geez, cut them some slack. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'll cut them some slack on the initial no serials find by the ATF, but really after the ATF tells you this is wrong and you need to fix it not fixing it is hard to give them a pass on. The ATF surprisingly is pretty flexible, and doesn't want to press charges against a company unless stuff happens repeatedly or as a pattern. Had they spent the week serializing + logging all that stuff, I'd bet money the ATF wouldn't have done anything except keep an eye out for it in future audits. Shadow Ops had a handful of issues with an ATF audit, and they were very flexible in terms of letting us get things fixed + documented correctly first before pushing it as charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1loco Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Maybe they were arming a secret zombie army to take over the world.... yea you are right; they are just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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