planeflyer21 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 So now it comes out "Hey, why stop at terror and no-fly lists? We have all KINDS of lists!" http://theweek.com/speedreads/631139/senate-considers-banning-gun-ownership-smaller-lists Pretty soon they'll add "registered voters" to that list.
survivalshop Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 We have already have a discussion on how screwed up the watch list is & Trump wants to or already has talked to the NRA to get their opinion . The Article , like all the media makes up what ever they want & I'm beginning to believe they are all in it together . I just read how O'Butthead added 1.3 Million to the watch list in 2013 , who knows how many since then . These A$$Holes have no idea of what they are doing , just the agenda of disarming us !
MikedaddyH Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 Three of the four Bills' to be introduced this week will fail. The terrorist watch list bill is expected to pass , its will have names put on by the FBI. But what puts some one on that list is still not deturmened ... This is not a good thing. Also due processed has not been addressed !
EngrBob Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 Personally I would like to see the list of Hitlary's donors put on a list so they can not buy weapons and placed on a priority list for deportation.
survivalshop Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 20 minutes ago, EngrBob said: Personally I would like to see the list of Hitlary's donors put on a list so they can not buy weapons and placed on a priority list for deportation. They already live oversea's so no need to deport them .
EngrBob Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 30 minutes ago, survivalshop said: They already live oversea's so no need to deport them . Damn, you are right. No Americans in that group. But some are here illegally.
GRA Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, MikedaddyH said: Three of the four Bills' to be introduced this week will fail. The terrorist watch list bill is expected to pass , its will have names put on by the FBI. But what puts some one on that list is still not deturmened ... This is not a good thing. Also due processed has not been addressed ! I hate to say this but don't get your hopes up that all 4 won't pass. Don't be surprised if they do. Like you and others, I sincerely hope they don't. Gentlemen ... we need to try to understand that the movement to "change and transform the United States" is an attempt at no less than all levels and all aspects of our society. This has been a long-term liberal bias and agenda with racial and communist undertones. We are now seeing things become overt that only months ago were cards kept close to their demented chests. One example in particular is the "innocent until proven guilty". Liberals HATE this part of our system and have eroded it little by little over the years. This is what has kept would-be tyrants in check for over 200 years. It prevents political adversaries from being imprisoned. One other example is these "lists", in particular the "no-fly" list. Notice how only 1 or 2 federal agencies has input, view, and correction capabilities in to, and out of, this list? It is easier to control a few federal agencies in to violating our rights than it is the masses and this is commonly known. There are NO checks-and-balances to erroneous information being placed on this list; no formal process of being able to meet your accuser in an open court of law to refute dishonest (or misinterpreted) accusations of wrongdoing; you are immediately and totally at the mercy of the system once you meet certain "criteria" for being placed on the list, to include having your name removed and so as instantaneously as you are placed on the list with your God-given rights suspended and/or revoked. Once on the list and even cleared, they will take their precoius time in taking your name off. This will only get worse over time, as we know Congress seldom writes such forceful laws without sufficient gray areas to benefit the government, as differentiated from "WE THE PEOPLE". If the Anointed One does not get what he wants out of Congress this time (isn't it strange there is all of a sudden a big push to vote on this ... ???) he will no doubt try an executive order to impose it anyway ... AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT HIM TO DO. It is far easier to refuse compliance with a questionable executive order than it is a codified law from Congress. If Congress DOES pass these laws, the hill to climb to get them removed will have become a steep mountain as opposed to a mere hill. We still have a SCOTUS position to fill and these clowns are still in office technically until January of 2017. Edited June 19, 2016 by GRA
GRA Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, EngrBob said: Damn, you are right. No Americans in that group. But some are here illegally. A lot of them are here illegally.
survivalshop Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) The whole Gun issue is a smoke screen , just to keep our minds off the real issues , because none of what they have to vote on would of meant a hill of beans in stopping the Terrorist . It also keeps B.o.B's legal troubles out of the spot light . BoB = Butcher of Benghazi = Hitlery Edited June 19, 2016 by survivalshop
EngrBob Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 48 minutes ago, survivalshop said: The whole Gun issue is a smoke screen , just to keep our minds off the real issues , because none of what they have to vote on would of meant a hill of beans in stopping the Terrorist . It also keeps B.o.B's legal troubles out of the spot light . BoB = Butcher of Benghazi = Hitlery You mean this problem: Word for word from the Cornell Law Library Former United States Attorney General Michael Mukasey tells MSNBC that not only is Hillary Clinton's private email server illegal, it "disqualifies" her from holding any federal office. Such as, say, President of the United States. Very specifically points to one federal law, Title 18. Section 2071 (Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally) For those of us who do not have United States Code committed to memory, here's what it says: “(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.” Yes, it explicitly states "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."
GRA Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 This true but there lies the double-standard; Hillary is innocent until proven guilty (and has not yet even been formally charged). As for the no-fly list, you can be put on this more easily, and from there on out your rights are revoked until you are proven innocent.
MikedaddyH Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 Voting is finished by the Senate. All four Bills failed. Once again voting with party lines.
GRA Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, MikedaddyH said: Voting is finished by the Senate. All four Bills failed. Once again voting with party lines. We're damn lucky this time ... SO FAR ... as I fear it's not over with yet. Like I posted yesterday ... if they all simply won't jus too away, the best we can hope for is for the Emperor to issue another funky order, which of course we can all refuse to comply with yet toss around keeping them going until January of 2017, that's IF Trump makes it to office.
MikedaddyH Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 Sen. Flake and Sen. Cornyn will introduce another bill tomorrow.
survivalshop Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 The time frame for the " Never let a good Crisis go to waste " is running out , gotta get it while its hot .
planeflyer21 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 4 hours ago, MikedaddyH said: Sen. Flake and Sen. Cornyn will introduce another bill tomorrow. So far he is proving to be a far larger POS than even McCain.
MikedaddyH Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, planeflyer21 said: So far he is proving to be a far larger POS than even McCain. A one term kind of guy !!!
planeflyer21 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, MikedaddyH said: A one term kind of guy !!! That's what I thought about McChurian, when he went to Vietnam to look for POWs on top of a rice paddy berm, declaring "There are no POWs here, Vietnam is our friend!" Yet he's been reelected multiple times since then.
MikedaddyH Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 Yeah but Flake's kids are dog killers. And Nobody forgets that $h¡T !
survivalshop Posted June 22, 2016 Report Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) I heard a story last night about someone that made it on the no fly list just by writing letters to " The Muslim King " in the USA . I will leave names & Gender out of it , because on how I heard the info . This person was out of work & when they were looking for people to work on the ACA exchanges , was told it would bring in a good pay check , so this person started to fill out the application & it got to a question if this person owned a Gun , this person thought that was an odd question & didn't answer it ( as any of us here would ) when looking at the sight to see the progress of the application , showed it was not accepted & of course it didn't take a brain surgeon to know why & was told so in so many terms by the contact with them. So this person started to throw down some scathing letters on how they are this & that , on a regular basis . Well time went by & one of this persons family members worked in a place that had to regularly check the No Fly List for their job ( not going to say who or where ) , calls this person up & said , do you know your on the No Fly List ? " What " was the answer , & his source asked "what the heck did you get into " because the source knew this person well & knew they were not the type to get into trouble . When replying about the Application & scathing letters , the source couldn't believe it . This person laughed & said they don't fly & never will , so no biggie , but getting off the list is a long time in coming , if at all . This is almost a first hand story & I believe this person , because they have no reason to make something up & other reasons I can't get into , to protect those involved . So how many more Political vendetta people are on this secret list ? They want to use it for denying someones Constitutional rights , FUK Them ,All of them ! Now the Commies are having a sit in on Capital hill , they can go to Hell ! Edited June 22, 2016 by survivalshop
planeflyer21 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Posted June 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, survivalshop said: I heard a story last night about someone that made it on the no fly list just by writing letters to " The Muslim King " in the USA . I will leave names & Gender out of it , because on how I heard the info . This person was out of work & when they were looking for people to work on the ACA exchanges , was told it would bring in a good pay check , so this person started to fill out the application & it got to a question if this person owned a Gun , this person thought that was an odd question & didn't answer it ( as any of us here would ) when looking at the sight to see the progress of the application , showed it was not accepted & of course it didn't take a brain surgeon to know why & was told so in so many terms by the contact with them. So this person started to throw down some scathing letters on how they are this & that , on a regular basis . Well time went by & one of this persons family members worked in a place that had to regularly check the No Fly List for their job ( not going to say who or where ) , calls this person up & said , do you know your on the No Fly List ? " What " was the answer , & his source asked "what the heck did you get into " because the source knew this person feel & knew they were not the type to get into trouble . When replying about the Application & scathing letters , the source couldn't believe it . This person laughed & said they don't fly & never will , so no biggie , but getting off the list is a long time in coming , if at all . This is almost a first hand story & I believe this person , because they have no reason to make something up & other reasons I can't get into , to protect those involved . So how many more Political vendetta people are on this secret list ? They want to use it for denying someones Constitutional rights , FUK Them ,All of them ! Now the Commies are having a sit in on Capital hill , they can go to Hell ! As disturbing as that is, add it to TSA setting up check points on roads in Tennessee last year. Extra fed money? Who cares! Set up road blocks.
survivalshop Posted June 22, 2016 Report Posted June 22, 2016 What is the TSA setting up check points for ? Isn't that out of their jurisdiction ? They have no authority on State or City roads . They using them for landing strips ?
MikedaddyH Posted June 22, 2016 Report Posted June 22, 2016 The Dem's in the House are having a sit in over gun control ,right now.Ryan can't control his House ! That B¡tch Pochanas Warren is sitting on the House floor. Ryan should kick her @$$ out !
MikedaddyH Posted June 22, 2016 Report Posted June 22, 2016 The House has turned off the camera's and the mic. Rep (D)Scott Peters has his phone providing video. This is why Congress doesn't get anything done !
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