rfaye7007 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Hello All, I am new to building/assembling. I am currently in the middle of my first. What I have: Spikes Tactical "THE JACK" .308 DPMS lower, came with the upper (receiver). JP enterprise FMOS High Pressure Bolt Carrier Group JP Silent Capture Buffer Spring PRS GEN 3 Mag Pul Stock Timney AR-10 competition trigger (4lbs) What I want: JP enterprise 18" Barrel with 1:11 1/4" twist What I don't know: What rifle length gas system to get? What length hand guard I should get? I just know I need to cover the gas system. What muzzle break to get? What optics to get? What I plant to use it for: I want to target shoot anywhere from 300 - 600+ yards and I would like to hunt deer with it. Hey if I get good with it, maybe even Elk. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.R.D. Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Welcome! Nice receiver - will scare the animals for sure! What rifle length gas system to get? - Probably rifle-length to keep pressures down What length hand guard I should get? I just know I need to cover the gas system. - 15" will work nicely What muzzle break to get? - For optimum recoil reduction Nathan Wright's Beast Brake seems to be the current one to beat. Search the muzzle brake threads for links to all the comparison testing that has been done out there to explore your options. What optics to get? - For hunting at 600 yards you'll likely want a good field of view, so more than 15x might not be helpful in my understanding -Why are you going for 1:11.25" twist, though? Hunting you'll want heavier pills. So, to stabilize them with a decent B.C. you'll probably benefit from a tighter twist; at least 1:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Welcome, the builders on this forum will point you in the right direction. If you don't shoot more than 175 gr, the 11.25 twist will do fine.Any more take DRD's advice. Actually this is a 308AR build. AR10 is proprietary Armalite. For good values on optics, check out Primary Arms. Also the Nikon Monarch line. A 4x16 would work, actually more optic than you need at those ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.R.D. Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Good points, Sisco. Optics: http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=623 Brakes: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/02/jeremy-s/308-muzzle-brake-test/ http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/08/21/muzzle-brake-summary-of-field-test-results/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfCk0LiY1gwB-BIdTYWdhcQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfaye7007 Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Wow, thanks guys for the feedback. Haven't bought the barrel yet, I wanted to go with a JP barrel to match up nice with my JP bolt. JP barrel at 18" has 11.25 twist. I currently shoot 165grain out of my winchester model 88...what are the drawbacks to the 11.25 twist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, rfaye7007 said: .what are the drawbacks to the 11.25 twist? Nothing, really. There are no drawbacks to that twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I have rifles with both and see no appreciable difference with bullets from 130 to 178 grain. Each rifle has a particular velocity node it prefers with the same grain bullet but you can have that same difference in barrels with the same twist and length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdoc Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Great receiver group and stock! I'm sure the gents here will be a great help. I started my first 308AR build in January and just finished a few weeks ago. Have fun building then shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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