Canadian Feds get a FU from provinces on gun confiscation

[Cunuckgaucho]

So it becan with one province(Alberta) and now 2(Manitoba ans Saskatchewan) other provinces  have joined in and sent letters to the Feds opting out using provincial resources to confiscate guns from legal law abiding.

from- https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/liberal-minister-accuses-alberta-of-abdication-for-resisting-gun-buybacks/ar-AA12mILA

Liberal minister accuses Alberta of 'abdication' for resisting gun buybacks

Ryan Tumilty - Yesterday 3:13 p.m.

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OTTAWA – Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino said his government will go ahead with plans for a mandatory gun buyback program, over the objections of Alberta’s justice minister, who has said he would see to it that police in his province, including the RCMP, would not take part in the effort.

Alberta Justice Minister Tyler Shandro announced Monday he would reject the Liberals’ plans to enforce the collection of privately owned weapons for buyback, including by directing the RCMP in the province not to enforce the new legislation. He said there are much more important issues to address right now.

“It’s important to remember that Alberta taxpayers pay over $750 million per year for the RCMP and we will not tolerate taking officers off the streets in order to confiscate the property of law-abiding firearms owners.”

Mendicino wrote to Shandro last month asking for assistance implementing the government’s proposed buyback program, which aims to take what the Liberals call “assault-style” firearms out of private hands. Mendicino said Shandro simply can’t ignore a federal law because he doesn’t agree with it.

“To simply issue a letter saying we’re going to resist, we’re not going to co-operate with the federal government is wrong,” he said. “It’s an abdication of responsibility. It’s an abdication, because it suggests that any province has the ability to opt out of a federal law when it relates to firearms.”

The Liberals used an order in council to reclassify the weapons as prohibited, and beginning this fall the government will offer what they have determined to be the fair market rate for the guns. The government published a list of compensation rates earlier this summer.

Shandro announced the Alberta government would also join legal challenges against the federal government’s gun legislation that have been working through the courts.

The Liberals program aims to buyback 1,500 models of firearms the government has described as “assault style.” Mendicino said regulating firearms is squarely in the purview of the federal government and Shandro should work with the Liberals on the program instead of fighting them.

“The courts have repeatedly held this is an issue that falls within the jurisdiction of the federal government. And therefore it is our hope and our expectation that we will work collaboratively with all provinces and territories,” Mendicino said.

He said he has no doubts police forces across Alberta will take part in the program.

“We would expect that any law on the books will be enforced, by law enforcement,” Mendicino said.

The RCMP in Alberta act as the province’s police force outside of Calgary and Edmonton and the provincial government covers 70 per cent of the costs of the force.

Shandro said the contract the province has with the RCMP allows them to object when RCMP resources are being used for laws the province doesn’t support and they are invoking that provision of the contract.

Shandro said the RCMP’s senior officer in Alberta doesn’t support using his officers but an RCMP spokesperson would not confirm this when reached on Wednesday.

Shandro argued the Liberals’ entire gun control agenda is driven by politics instead of any real public safety needs and Alberta won’t help with that effort.

“While the federal government has labeled them as, in their words, ’assault style,’ that’s a label designed to scare Canadians who are unfamiliar with firearms. It’s a description based purely on their appearance,” he said. “This is politically motivated, confiscation, pure and simple. One that will do nothing to make Alberta a safer place.”

The Liberals brought in the new rules shortly after the 2020 Nova Scotia mass shooting, although the weapons used by the gunman were all either already illegal or illegally obtained and three were smuggled in from the United States.

Mendicino defended the buyback program, arguing it specifically targets weapons that were used in deadly shootings.

“Assault style rifles are not used for hunting. They’re used and were designed to exert the most amount of lethal force in the shortest period of time.”

Edited September 30, 2022 by Cunuckgaucho

[BrianK]

I see that Canadian liars use the same terms that are used here in the USA. It's not a gun buyback, that makes it sound like the go'vermin somehow had something to do with putting the firearms "out there". It's a mandatory compensated confiscation but that doesn't sound as touchy feely as a buyback.

Not used for hunting... oh really? 

Good for the resisting provinces!

[Cunuckgaucho]

Well this was just announced

In March 2026, the Supreme Court of Canada agreed to hear an appeal challenging the May 2020 prohibition of assault-style firearms. In light of this, the Amnesty Orders have been extended and set to expire 90 days following the date the Supreme Court of Canada renders its decision, which is expected next year. By extending the amnesty period, the Government is providing certainty to individual owners and businesses that they will continue to be protected from criminal liability while the Supreme Court hears the appeal and renders its decision"

Our statement on this important development:

"The CCFR welcomes the news that the federal government is extending the amnesty protecting gun owners and businesses from prosecutions associated with their ill-fated gun bans and compensation program. 

We suspect that the government realized that a defeat at the Supreme Court of Canada after collecting guns and or prosecuting those in non-compliance would be an untenable position for the Mark Carney's Liberals. 

We look forward to presenting our case to Canada's Supreme Court and achieving justice for law-abiding property owners and businesses"

 

It's very rare for the Supreme court to hear a case like this in that the appeal court supported a court ruling on the ban. The main focus on this challange is that the government was wrong and did not follow the law and procedures when enacting the gun ban.

 This will be the 4th time the gun ban ammensty has been extended. What's interesting is that it was the government proactivly extending the ban, not to say they aren't still asking people to turn in their guns. I suspect if the government was confident of a win they'd carry on and not extend the Oct 2026 ammensty end. 

The government is running into push back from police chiefs of major departments and The Canadian Taxpayers Association telling their members it's a waste of money and resources and does nothing to deal with criminal firearm use. This could actually be the excuse the lieberals can use to drop the whole thing and walk away saying hey we tried, I don't think they counted on the amount of push back and lack of compliance.

[Magwa]

From the words used by the liberals they are complete and utter quacks when it comes to firearms . this quote “Assault style rifles are not used for hunting. They’re used and were designed to exert the most amount of lethal force in the shortest period of time.” what a idiot ANY gun no matter what it looks like can be used in a criminal way same as a bomb a car ,truck, hammer, baseball bat, knife!  what these liberal quacks need is to be thrown out in the streets to find a good dose of common sense. they will find their answers as to why guns are just as good as the person using them. once they get mugged ,robbed murdered, etc.

[Armed Eye Doc]

7 hours ago, Magwa said:

bomb a car ,truck, hammer, baseball bat, knife!

If they could take away guns, all of that would be on the list for future confiscation.  Then they would start arresting people for Internet posts that they don't like.