msoto80010 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hello everyone. This is my first foray into the realm of .308 so please excuse any newb questions. I obtained a JD Machine Tech matched upper and lower. They are DPMS compatible. My question is in the choice of barrels. I want to stick to a minimum 20" barrel. I have looked into an actual DPMS 24" bull barrel and a JP Enterprises 22" medium contour barrel. I have heard good things about the DPMS barrels but 24" is slightly on the long side for me. At 22" the JP is looking more appealing. I can't seem to find any reviews or info on the JP beyond what is on their web site. Any one out there have any experience with these barrels? Any info would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Im not sure why but I dont seem to come across many folks with JP rifles of any sort so I have no help to offer.A second alternative would be Fulton Armory's Krieger Criterion barrels. I think someone mentioned the DPMS barrels are manufactured from Wilson blanksand with this post I didnt answer a single question you asked, Welcome to the site!! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWshooter Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Part of the answer depends on what you are going to use the rifle for? The 24" bull barrel is great for bench rest shooting at long range, but if you plan on carrying it very far the medium contour would be a better choice. The DPMS barrels are production barrels and have no accuracy guarantee, if you require an exceptionally accurate barrel, than you should buy something that is specifically sold as a match quality barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Thanks for the answers so far. The planned use for this build is long range bench shooting. I would like to start experimenting with 600 - 1000 yard shots. The JP barrels claim to be supermatch, but a manufacturer can say just about anything they want. That doesn't make it true. That is why I was looking for actual personal experience. Thanks for the alternatives. I will investigate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 please keep us updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted May 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Went to JD Machine to pick up my matched set today. We have a 10 day (make sure you're not a psycho) waiting period here. I got to talking with Rob there. He is an ex Seal armorer that does all there custom work. He gave JP Enterprises good marks so I "pulled the trigger" on their barrel to try it out. The rest of the parts are on order and should start trickling in slowly. The waiting for the UPS guy is the hardest part. Will keep you updated and post some pics as the build progresses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Rob and the guys down there are super cool. I've stopped by a few times to chat and they have been very helpful. Did he let you hold the 13.7" w/pinned noveske pig? That gun was sweet. As for JP, they were less than helpful when I emailed them about their .308 carrier. I was pretty set on ordering that and one of their barrel sets, but they turned me off to it pretty quick with poor customer service. I'm usually working during most companies business hours, so I rarely call anyone. I'm so used to shooting emails that I just do it without much thought anymore. Maybe things would have been different if I had called them, but they were short and no help with their response to my email and never even responded to the second. I wound up going with Fulton for most of my parts after that. Look forward to seeing your build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 And for a side note...if you're getting your matched set from JD as a stripped set, ask Rob for the pin they use for the rear detent. That hole is drilled to be tapped 6-32 and they use the same threaded pin that goes with the bolt catch to take up the extra slack and keep tension on the rear detent pin. Almost no LPK will come with two of those pins, so grab one from him while you're there <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted May 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Thanks for the heads up DNP. I had read your post on the rear detent screw. Rob hooked me up with 2. One to use and one to loose I guess. I called JP to place my order and they were extremely helpful on the phone. I ended up getting the 22" barrel kit (which included the adjustable gas system & comp), heat sink for the barrel, Complete bolt assy, and handguard. They even threw in a discount. ;D Since I can't take a picture to save my life, I am going to have to hook up with you for some good pics once it is complete. You have mad photo skills by the way.MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Sounds like a plan. <thumbsup> Can't wait to see your build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Still waiting on JP. They did say it would take a couple of weeks to get the stuff in. Anxiously counting the days. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter545 Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 I just finished an 18 inch upper and used the JP barrel. I called and ordered it, got great service from a knowledgeable CSR. I'm moving to the Heavy Optics division in 3 gun and the 24 inch fluted barrel on my DPMS was a little too long/heavy for that application. I have had really good accuracy results, (5 shots, 125 Nosler BT into 1.12 inches at 200 meters) with the JP barrel. That is about as good as I can hold the rifle or see for that matter.I think that you will be pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 I just finished an 18 inch upper and used the JP barrel. I called and ordered it, got great service from a knowledgeable CSR. I'm moving to the Heavy Optics division in 3 gun and the 24 inch fluted barrel on my DPMS was a little too long/heavy for that application. I have had really good accuracy results, (5 shots, 125 Nosler BT into 1.12 inches at 200 meters) with the JP barrel. That is about as good as I can hold the rifle or see for that matter.I think that you will be pleased.pictures please ;D Thanks for joining <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted July 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I received the upper assy goodies last week. The stuff sure looks purdy and I couldn't help but get it assembled the next day. Still waiting on a stock and optics. I used the A2 stock off of my AR-15 and a cheapo scope off of my AR15-22 to "temporarily" completed the build. I was anxious to try it out and start the break in process that JP recommends. Can't really attest to the accuracy as of yet. Still breaking the barrel in and haven't mounted good optics. I was also using inexpensive ammo. The grouping started out wide and started tightening up as I progressed through the break in process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 what, no photo's ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 The masterpiece is not completed yet ;D The stock arrives on Thursday. I am debating on wether to take pics then or wait for the optics to arrive for a completed presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 what, no photo's ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 The masterpiece is not completed yet ;D The stock arrives on Thursday. I am debating on wether to take pics then or wait for the optics to arrive for a completed presentation.How about both....build some suspense <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Well, the wait is over. For parts anyway. Now comes the wait for range time to break it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 DNP,It's time to make an appointment with you for portraits. As you can see above, I suck at taking pictures. Your skills are needed to make this thing look presentable. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Looks great man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoto80010 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Thanks. One major problem I have run into is that the stock DPMS factory trigger is horrible for accuracy. It has a super heavy pull and loads of creep. Any advice on a precision trigger I can use for better accuracy? I would prefer something that isn't too complicated to install. Not that I am not capable but the simpler the less can go wrong. I was thinking maybe a geiselle SSA or the likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 We have a few threads on triggers but my favorite is the ATC SR Gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter545 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 ATC Gold is by far one of the best triggers for AR platforms that I have ever shot. They aren't cheap but they are good. I just ordered another one for my 6.8 rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Bill Springfield . http://www.triggerwork.net/Nice rifle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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