jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Opinions for waiting on this...Barrel, 18.5", M14/M1A, Medium Contour, 1x10, Chrome Moly, KriegerPart #: FA-M-009Manufacturer: KriegerKrieger Barrels, Inc. manufactures precision single-point cut-rifled barrels, which is the oldest and slowest method of rifling a barrel. The cutter removes approximately .001" at each pass, thus taking several hundred passes to rifle a barrel. This produces near perfect concentricity between groove & bore, a very uniform twist rate, and induces no stress into the steel which later has to be relieved. The barrels are hand lapped after reaming and then again after rifling to finishes under 16 micro-inch in the direction of bullet travel.Our Krieger barrels are fully finished and chambered by Krieger (not blanks)The chamber is .010-.020 short and should be properly head spaced by a qualified gunsmith.Specifications18.5"Medium Weight Contour (heaviest contour available with standard op rod guide)1-10 twist7.62/.308 short chamber by KriegerKrieger selected chrome moly steelManganese phosphate parkerizedSingle-point cut-rifling I have looked at Fulton Armory for a few weeks and many keep recommending it. This barrel is what I believe will be well suited for me, is expensive but won't break the bank, and is made by a reputable name. What recommendations can you make for a comparable quality BCG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I am in western Mass, and I will be more than happy to help you in anyway I can. This barrel here is a sweet one by a reputable maker, sold by an awesome guy…. Can't go wrong. Just remember you need a comp or a brake on the end of it pinned to comply Thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Opinions for waiting on this...Barrel, 18.5", M14/M1A, Medium Contour, 1x10, Chrome Moly, Krieger2 concerns. Its an M14/M1A barrel, not a DPMS AR308 barrel, so fit is potentially not the same. but along those same lines from that product page The chamber is .010-.020 short and should be properly head spaced by a qualified gunsmith. So unless you were planning on having a gunsmith assemble it, and you're ready to pay the extra cost on top for headspace adjustment it may not be the best bet. You'd probably be best off going directly to Krieger to make sure you get it exactly right. http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 2 concerns. Its an M14/M1A barrel, not a DPMS AR308 barrel, so fit is potentially not the same.He's right, I think this is the one you meant, or should be looking at from Fulton, and by the way Clint at Fulton is a top notch guyhttp://www.fulton-armory.com/barrelfatitan185nmmedss1x10936gasblock.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 He's right, I think this is the one you meant, or should be looking at from Fulton, and by the way Clint at Fulton is a top notch guyhttp://www.fulton-armory.com/barrelfatitan185nmmedss1x10936gasblock.aspx thanks...apparently I'm a little dense with this whole DPMS issue. That barrel does seem to right up my alley. If I could have actually bought all these initial components I liked over the past week, I may have had about $1,500 in mixed useless parts. I'll get the hang of this 308 build soon. Did I mention that I also plan on sending it out to Red Creek Tactical next year when it's finished?Those guys are artists with cerakotee finishes and do stuff I've never seen from another company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 if you have the upper / lower in hand right now and they aren't assembled (lower parts kit, trigger, etc) you may be better off sending them in now for cerakoting since you'll be waiting on the rest anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Please run by parts and ideas by us, it's what we are here for and like to do…. so no mistakes are made. While the M1A barrel could've gotten sent back, it would suck to have to pay all the shipping fees ect.. Remember when ordering, you want DPMS/SR25 platform capatibilty, and for places to look for parts, check our site sponsors, Rainier Arms, Fulton Armory, and try to stay away from GB and other auction sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 if you have the upper / lower in hand right now and they aren't assembled (lower parts kit, trigger, etc) you may be better off sending them in now for cerakoting since you'll be waiting on the rest anyhowI'm still considering doing that but I have to wait on the Troy Battlerail TRX...tough to get easily too. The finish will be on that and the lower and uppers only...which, makes it cheaper and easier for them. I don't need to run around in my backyard with a rifle that blends in with my old BDUs...I would have to question my own sanity then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerman Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 thanks...apparently I'm a little dense with this whole DPMS issue. That barrel does seem to right up my alley. If I could have actually bought all these initial components I liked over the past week, I may have had about $1,500 in mixed useless parts. I'll get the hang of this 308 build soon. In case it was not clear, I'm a rookie. Completely new. It's a bit of a learning curve. I only lost about $100 in bad parts. But these guys here took care of me. I'll step aside for the experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 This site welcomes help to new members, from new and old members, that is why this is such a great community. If you aren't sure, it's ok to concede that, I still learn everyday, and what we may not know, shortly someone will come along that does! <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 In case it was not clear, I'm a rookie. Completely new. It's a bit of a learning curve. I only lost about $100 in bad parts. But these guys here took care of me. I'll step aside for the experts.same here. currently in my hands is a lower parts kit and 2 stage trigger, that's as close as I am to an AR 308 today. Of course tomorrow some more comes in, and more Thursday :D So much was on either a reasonable length back order, or just shipping delay. the place I bought the upper from has a 3-4 week shipping delay for in stock items... Just FYI, my lower is coming cerakoted from the manufacturer, and i'm sending the upper out as soon as it shows up. But i'm not adding a battle rail, as a) my budget is already past the breaking point and b) I really only need a bottom side rail for a handgrip/rest and bipod. I'm not mounting a pile of stuff on the rifle, its going to be used for hunting so I don't really need a flashlight, red and green lasers, a bayonet, etc :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerman Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 same here. currently in my hands is a lower parts kit and 2 stage trigger, that's as close as I am to an AR 308 today. Of course tomorrow some more comes in, and more Thursday :D So much was on either a reasonable length back order, or just shipping delay. the place I bought the upper from has a 3-4 week shipping delay for in stock items... Just FYI, my lower is coming cerakoted from the manufacturer, and i'm sending the upper out as soon as it shows up. But i'm not adding a battle rail, as a) my budget is already past the breaking point and b) I really only need a bottom side rail for a handgrip/rest and bipod. I'm not mounting a pile of stuff on the rifle, its going to be used for hunting so I don't really need a flashlight, red and green lasers, a bayonet, etc :)Well I technically didn't have a "budget"... but ya, I nuked it. ;D I just got a smooth vented DPMS hand guard because I didn't want anything on it. Drilled a hole for a sling mount and put on my bipod and it's done. I do really like a couple smooth vented hand guards out there... but again... nuked budget. I do think I ended up with a really nice rifle. I'm real happy how it turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Well I technically didn't have a "budget"... but ya, I nuked it. ;D I just got a smooth vented DPMS hand guard because I didn't want anything on it. Drilled a hole for a sling mount and put on my bipod and it's done. I do really like a couple smooth vented hand guards out there... but again... nuked budget. I do think I ended up with a really nice rifle. I'm real happy how it turned out.I'm happy with how mine should turn out once all the pieces arrive. Shadow Ops Weaponry lower, standard low dpms upper, 20" rainier arms barrel, harris tactical nickel boron coated bolt carrier group, the cmmg 2 stage trigger. still undecided on buttstock though. i'm leaning towards the magpul CTR overall, but the STR + ACS/ACS-L all look good too. cerakoting in foliage, so I figure i'll go with the magpul synthetic MOE handguard since its both inexpensive, has lower rail space and comes in the right color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Please post pics of new builds...found some with a Mega that got me thinking in a whole other direction. Where on earth can I get a lower parts kit for say colt?...something that isn't garbage. I haven't seen anything available for any reasonable timeframe. Most include a bunch of garbage that I don't want in it. Like a stock etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Please post pics of new builds...found some with a Mega that got me thinking in a whole other direction. Where on earth can I get a lower parts kit for say colt?...something that isn't garbage. I haven't seen anything available for any reasonable timeframe. Most include a bunch of garbage that I don't want in it. Like a stock etc... or does that have to be DPMS too lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 in the lower parts kit it is all standard AR 15 parts except for the bolt catch screw, front pivot pin and takedown pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 A budget...what's that???I can realistically only spend another $1,200 this year or I will have to whore myself out for even more extra shifts at work...I have a family to worry about so I have to keep myself in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 well, i'm easily breaking $2000 without buying a battle rail, stock or scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 well, i'm easily breaking $2000 without buying a battle rail, stock or scope I never said where I got the lower upper set....GB. Nuf said.I did overpay but only spent 250 or so above retail but what could I do? Next month you might may double or more. Things are crazy. I justified it by telling myself that it isn't an AR-15 after all...sh!t is $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerman Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Here's mine. I'm irritated because my regular camera just took a dump recently. Other wise I would take better pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Another funny thing was that I turned down a possible endless supply of forged lowers for AR-15's just prior to the school shooting...each for under $100. I figured I didn't need them at the time. Any of you want the lottery picks for next week? I also do palm readings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerman Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I never said where I got the lower upper set....GB. Nuf said.I did overpay but only spent 250 or so above retail but what could I do? Next month you might may double or more. Things are crazy. I justified it by telling myself that it isn't an AR-15 after all...sh!t is $$$Dude... I thought I was crazy for paying $300 for a JP enhanced bolt... until the next one went for $400. :oIt is what it is... but you will go broke quick there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Here's mine. I'm irritated because my regular camera just took a dump recently. Other wise I would take better pics.looks GTG so far, nice job. Black is still so sharp...even with all my cerakotee finish talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerman Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Ya, I'm partial to the evil color. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrtMA Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Edge....this is what I was refering to. Is it necessary? Absolutely not. It won't make the rifle work any better but that in a darker palet would be something to look at. It will be something that will likely come dead last too. Not an issue right now.Like I mentioned earlier. I would only do it on the troy component and upper and lower. The pic is a bit of an overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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