gnatshooter Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Friends, I'm offering for sale an interesting piece of tech. It's part of the "JP Enterprises Detachable Front Sight Base AR-15 with Lyman Globe Sight and 10 Shaver Sight Inserts" that you can find at Midway for $147.99. By itself, the Lyman #93 globe front sight is worth $69.95. The Lee Shaver inserts/reticles, which I highly recommend, are worth $20.95. Now, if I did the math right, that makes this "Sight Pedestal" (what I would call it) worth $57.09. Here's a pic. The device is held level by my Buck lock-blade pocket knife, which is not included. (I could tell you a story about British airport security and lock-blade knives, but not now.) Anyhow, why would I buy this in the first place? Well, I was looking for something that I could mount on the barrel of the rifle that would be compatible with my rear sight. I did that by mounting this on top of this barrel block: Well, the result was pretty kloogy. By accident, I found a Lipski Competition Barrel Band and put the Lyman #93 globe sight on that. When I the rest of my problems were solved. Finally. Geesh. Am I boring you? So anyhow, all of that left me with this really clever Sight Pedestal. Why would you want to buy it? There's lots of reasons. One is that, if you go and get the globe sight and inserts/reticles, you can "dial in" exactly what height you want. The range of adjustment is so wide that you can have nearly any combination of receiver rail height and gas block height. And you can dial in nearly any amount of elevation you want your iron sights to have. And of course -- for me, this is a big bonus -- you can get nearly any sight picture you want, using those Lee Shaver globe sight inserts/reticles. And on top of that, the unit looks really snarky. And if you want an extra endorsement, JP Enterprises sells the complete assembly, and they don't sell crap. At least, I don't think so. So anyhow, after all this explanation, which has likely used up your last bit of patience, you can have this Sight Pedestal for your very own, for $30. I'll cover shipping, and the rest of the fun will be all yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 any way you could mount that on your handguard or rcvr and snap a pic to get a better idea of scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 any way you could mount that on your handguard or rcvr and snap a pic to get a better idea of scale? Great idea, I'll get right on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) any way you could mount that on your handguard or rcvr and snap a pic to get a better idea of scale? Here you go! It's a series of three pix showing the pedestal mounted on the gas block: one with the entire rifle, one with the forward half of the rifle, and one closeup of the pedestal on the block. Just click on the thumbnails to expand to full size. Hope this helps! Edit: A note about pic #2. Do you see that globe sight sitting on top of the Lipski Competition Barrel Band that's right behind the muzzle? That tubular thingie that sits up there? That's what used to sit on top of the Sight Pedestal I'm selling. You can tell from the pic that I could have kept the Sight Pedestal on the gas block -- but I was not happy with the short sight radius. Note the location of the rear sight, which you can see in pic #1. People using peeper sights will mount the rear sight further back and would likely be happy with the sight radius they get with a mount on a railed gas block. Edited May 28, 2014 by gnatshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 lol...nobody overcomplicates a situation like gnat! (just look at that sight setup :P ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 lol...nobody overcomplicates a situation like gnat! (just look at that sight setup :P ) What's overcomplicated about having, basically, a standard set of sights on an AR-type rifle? It's merely difficult and unreasonably expensive. :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I was thinking this might be neat to mount a MRDS on your rail, and get any cowitness you want, but I think my little red dot mount has a cross bar. doesn't look like a cross bar pic. mount will fit on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I was thinking this might be neat to mount a MRDS on your rail, and get any cowitness you want, but I think my little red dot mount has a cross bar. doesn't look like a cross bar pic. mount will fit on that. I'm not quite sure I follow you, but the sight pedestal has a 0.55" wide dovetail on top, and I don't think a MRDS would clamp onto that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that riser is only good for globe sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I'm pretty sure that riser is only good for globe sights. I think you're probably right. The dovetail at the top of the sight pedestal is supposed to be "the standard" dovetail, except that it measures .55" and most "standard" sight dovetails are 3/8" except that the only "standard" 3/8 sight dovetails I'm aware of are Ruger 10/22, Browning Hi-Power, and Desert Eagle. When it comes to the "standard" 0.55" dovetail, I've only seen globe sights on them -- Lyman. Although I think Anschutz also has a globe sight that fits. Although, "only good for globe sights" is slightly misleading. If you get the Lee Shaver set of inserts/reticles, it's like having an assortment of ten different sights of three types: crosshair, aperture, and post. Edited May 29, 2014 by gnatshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Edit: A note about pic #2. Do you see that globe sight sitting on top of the Lipski Competition Barrel Band that's right behind the muzzle? That tubular thingie that sits up there? That's what used to sit on top of the Sight Pedestal I'm selling. You can tell from the pic that I could have kept the Sight Pedestal on the gas block -- but I was not happy with the short sight radius. Note the location of the rear sight, which you can see in pic #1. People using peeper sights will mount the rear sight further back and would likely be happy with the sight radius they get with a mount on a railed gas block. Why do you have your rear sight so far forward? The easiest way in the world to increase your sight radius (and gain a little accuracy) is to move that rear sight back. <dontknow> How does that Lipski Competition Barrel Band affect your accuracy? Noticed any diffeences? Barrel Harmonics come to mind, seeing that thing. <deleted text> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Why do you have your rear sight so far forward? The easiest way in the world to increase your sight radius (and gain a little accuracy) is to move that rear sight back. <dontknow> How does that Lipski Competition Barrel Band affect your accuracy? Noticed any diffeences? Barrel Harmonics come to mind, seeing that thing. "Snarky" and "kloogy" describe alot here. That really is good word choice, considering... The rear sight is a bit far forward, but not as far as you might think. On standard "old-style" weapons of old configuration, the sight is 18 inches forward of the back of the buttstock -- where you'd measure the "length of pull" from. Moving the rear sight back does, indeed, increase sight radius. However, I've only heard that from people using peep sights. I've made a sincere attempt to use peepers, and I can't. I've used front blade/rear notch ever since I got my BB gun when I was 5 years old. I've gotten a few rifles and pistols since then, and they use the front blade/rear leaf, too. It's like for some reason the AR pattern has to use peep sights. Sorry, I gotta have what I like. I'm still in the process of sighting the rifle in, so it's a bit early to tell if I'm gaining or losing accuracy with the Competition Barrel Band. I may never know. According to standard doctrine, hanging a bit of weight on the muzzle, any weight of any sort for any purpose, improves barrel dynamics and 'tune'. My experiments with .22lr suggest this is true. I'm not sure that anything I've learned anything by my strange modifications to Ruger 10/22s can really apply to larger calibers etc., except in the most general terms. <deleted text> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Please keep it on point, and discuss only the item for sale. Keep the other comments out of a for sale thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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